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Post by david on Nov 23, 2020 0:58:33 GMT -5
I try to listen to a bunch of sources. I know that it is hard to gather, or sift through, news sources to see what is REAL. I like PBS but recognize that it covers stories with a left edge. I like "The Oregonian" though recently it seems to have shifted a bit too left for me. I still pay attention to CBS and ABC news reports, along with AP written news.
I bring up Google News daily. The Wall Street Journal posts are typically blocked, but I can predict what the stories have to say because it is a mouthpiece for banks and the DOW Industrial.
Prior to Trump I could rely on articles by Newsweek, The Atlantic, NY Times, and the Washington Post. Trump has so frequently lied and obfuscated that those news sources tend to discredit everything he says. I want to keep an open mind and think that he might say something that is not a bunch of self serving shit, so I try to look beyond those sources.
If there is negative news about Trump on FOX, I give it credit because that network is basically his toadies.
Do you take any of this into consideration when you post?
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Post by t-bob on Nov 23, 2020 1:42:01 GMT -5
I like PBS, CBS Economist, Washington Post Times, few websites - humanetech.com, insightla.org I almost never watch FOX - there’s a reason
I read really genuine newspapers Technology is amazing - too addictive
It’s good for newspapers - you can put it in the recycling, puppies piss in kennel, for a fireplace I can’t do that for a computer -
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Post by theevan on Nov 23, 2020 5:06:38 GMT -5
My wife. Fauxmaha. Howdy-Doody. Maynor G. Krebs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 6:57:10 GMT -5
My wife. Fauxmaha. Howdy-Doody. Maynor G. Krebs. Maynard G. Krebs
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Post by Marshall on Nov 23, 2020 9:49:25 GMT -5
facebook. I get all my memes/jokes from there.
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Post by coachdoc on Nov 23, 2020 9:54:02 GMT -5
Anybody: 'Work' Maynard: 'WORK!!!'
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Post by fauxmaha on Nov 23, 2020 10:07:42 GMT -5
I avoid "news".
My list of go-to reading/listening is:
Glenn Greenwald Matt Taibbi Jesse Singal Andrew Sullivan Kevin Williamson Andrew McCarthy Tim Pool Bret Weinstein Michael Tracy Jonathan Pageau (added on edit)
(I'm probably leaving some off)
In general, they constitute my collective filter. If something happens of sufficient interest or meaning that it gets some attention from someone on that list, I'll generally be interested enough to pay attention.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Nov 23, 2020 10:29:04 GMT -5
PBS. NBC. Reuters. Fox (the local station, not the talking head shows like Hannity) And I subscribe and scan the Los Angeles times daily.
Mike
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Post by TKennedy on Nov 23, 2020 10:41:52 GMT -5
NPR Wall Street Journal Washington Post Star Tribune Fox and CNN for empty but entertaining calories. Last but not least The Soundhole. I’m serious!! Lots of well thought out food for thought from all angles of an issue right here.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Nov 23, 2020 11:20:18 GMT -5
I just wait for fauxmaha to interpret the world for me.
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Post by theevan on Nov 23, 2020 11:37:51 GMT -5
I used to consume at PBS. They have become insufferable. I do scan the Beeb every day. I read Rod Dreher's blog because I know him. I appreciate him because his interest lies in the moral and spiritual aspect of the body politic. But that's not news...it's commentary.
My son-in-law is well-informed, so I pick up things from him.
Sometimes I'll catch the top-of-the-hour news brief on AFR, chilibill's former employer. Speaking of AFR, I absolutely love Abraham Hamilton III. Not news...commentary.
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Post by Cornflake on Nov 23, 2020 11:50:21 GMT -5
There are no pundits I read regularly. For news, as opposed to commentary, all the mainstream sources are pretty good. Google news offers a pretty good array of options and I have it set to serve up Fox and Al Jazeera as well. Fox mostly reports the news accurately.
In the last few years the New York Times has lost the admirable objectivity it had had for many years. I'm sorry to see that but they still do an excellent job of reporting the facts. If there's a news story I really care about, that's where I'll go.
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Post by majorminor on Nov 23, 2020 12:21:28 GMT -5
I just peruse the Google news feed a few times a day. I actually learn more following the debates here.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 23, 2020 12:25:03 GMT -5
I've started watching CBS and Laura O'Donnell. I like the demeaner of the reporting by most all of their correspondents. I used to watch NBC. I do like Lester Holt. He was a Chicago NBC anchor for a long time before moving to national. But most of the correspondents seem smarmy to me. Chuck Todd is just so emotional and incredulous all the time that I have to flip the channel. I used to really like Brian Williams before his fall. I watch some CNN and Fox. I like Chris Wallace. I listen to NPR in the car. But sometimes they irk me with the slant of their coverage. I usually like Weekend Update on SNL. And the opening skit during election season. I was greatly disappointed last Saturday night when they ran a rerun show. I really wanted to see what they would do with Giuliani's hair this week. I watch WGN for weather. Local NBC for weather and sports. And, of course, The Soundhole.
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Post by Dub on Nov 23, 2020 12:33:31 GMT -5
AP, Reuters, NYT, WaPo, Axios, The Guardian, Al Jazeera, DW News for news. I like reading the news, not having it related to me in video mode. When those sources include video, I ignore the piece. As I use Apple devices exclusively, I also scan Apple News’s headlines for news of interest to me that may not fall in the category of general news.
I am not suspicious of the reporting in traditionally trusted news sources but I’m always on the lookout for the slants. My only objection to CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, PBS, etc. is that their primary delivery mode is video which I’d rather not watch. I think it’s important to read international sources to get an understanding of how stories are viewed from outside. I’ve also found that international sources may carry stories that aren’t covered here.
I also read opinion pieces in those sources but I try to be careful not to confuse them with news.
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Post by epaul on Nov 23, 2020 12:33:51 GMT -5
The Grand Forks Herald and the Warren Sheaf.
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Post by sekhmet on Nov 23, 2020 12:44:01 GMT -5
CBC and BBC.
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Post by Russell Letson on Nov 23, 2020 12:52:34 GMT -5
I have subscriber links to our local Gannett rag and WaPo (because they were on special and I'm cheap) in Firefox, flip between CNN and MSNBC on the telly, and listen to NPR/MPR/BBC on the radio. Then there's all the straight reporting available through the internet (though much of that is sourced from AP or Reuters), which give access to local/regional stories.
Reliability is not a simple thing, which is why multi-sourcing is so useful--not unlike the model of scientific research that depends on replicable experiments. If a range of sources report X, and if the nature of their sources is clear, and if there are no artifacts of manipulation or omission, then the story is probably solid.
On the commentary/analysis side, it's the quality of the analysis that matters, especially if the analyst has particular expertise in or understanding (especially historical) of the matter. While I appreciate ideological analysis, I'm always wary of the commentators who are more interested in scoring points or winning a round than I am in getting that other-side reading of events. FWIW, I subscribe to The New Yorker and The Atlantic*, but less for their public-policy pieces (as good as they are) than for general journalism and good writing.
* Also to Acoustic Guitar, Fretboard Journal, and Locus, but then I write for the last of those and have a full run of the first. I love magazines--my office has about 15 running feet of magazine files going back more than 40 years, and the same down in the basement.
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Post by howard lee on Nov 23, 2020 13:11:05 GMT -5
What? No one listens to Radio Free Moscow anymore? Oh, the humanity...
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Post by coachdoc on Nov 23, 2020 13:11:23 GMT -5
Used to be NPR but I have become sensitive to the leftist slant. I'm quite a lefty myself, but it is glaring how much it is slanted.
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