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Post by Rob Hanesworth on May 26, 2021 13:29:25 GMT -5
I have no idea what it is called, but there used to be a really crappy "board" product that my Dad used to finish a back porch into a bedroom and frame a closet into the room. I am sure he used it because it was cheap.
It was about a half inch thick but almost powdery at the edges. You could grab an edge between a thumb and forefinger and crumble it. You could easily punch a fist through it. It came in sheets like dry wall, but was much lighter. I doubt it is made any longer. Does anyone know what this crap was?
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Post by majorminor on May 26, 2021 14:55:38 GMT -5
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Post by billhammond on May 26, 2021 15:11:43 GMT -5
Must be tempting for you to ask your clients to ship the crates back to you after their doors are delivered.
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Post by jdd2 on May 26, 2021 17:03:39 GMT -5
... OSB That would actually make pretty neat-looking back/sides. With some aging toner, of course. (or on a solid body)
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Post by majorminor on May 26, 2021 17:17:48 GMT -5
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Post by millring on May 26, 2021 17:30:42 GMT -5
I built my first pottery shop with osb. It was my siding (painted and battened with contrasting vertical boards) and my interior paneling.
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Post by John B on May 26, 2021 17:46:40 GMT -5
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Post by howard lee on May 26, 2021 18:27:24 GMT -5
So, how do these differ from HPL? (Asking for a friend.)
HPL
Thanks, Dub! I just realized that the above is a hyperlink. I thought you just made it blue to illustrate what can be done with HPL. Nice selection at that place.
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Post by howard lee on May 26, 2021 18:28:35 GMT -5
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Post by coachdoc on May 27, 2021 7:57:14 GMT -5
Awesome Crayola tele.
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Post by howard lee on May 27, 2021 8:09:40 GMT -5
If I may, Doc: awesome colored-pencil Strat. The video is pretty cool, too. You can watch the build process.
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Post by coachdoc on May 27, 2021 8:12:35 GMT -5
A Fender is a Fender. No dif from one to the next
Oops, Excuse my ignorance. Obviously a strat configuration. There is a difference. A tele is good. A Strat is a Strat.
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Post by dradtke on May 27, 2021 8:42:13 GMT -5
I have no idea what it is called, but there used to be a really crappy "board" product that my Dad used to finish a back porch into a bedroom and frame a closet into the room. I am sure he used it because it was cheap. It was about a half inch thick but almost powdery at the edges. You could grab an edge between a thumb and forefinger and crumble it. You could easily punch a fist through it. It came in sheets like dry wall, but was much lighter. I doubt it is made any longer. Does anyone know what this crap was? We used to use a lot of something like that as a sound deadener underneath plywood on theatre scenery platforms. We called it sound deadening board. It was cheap. A step up from that would be homasote, a little denser and more grey colored. Then there was an exterior fiberboard sheathing that was treated to be water-resistant. It was black and in my early carpentering days we called it n-word board. (On edit: Celotex.)
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on May 27, 2021 10:25:29 GMT -5
I have no idea what it is called, but there used to be a really crappy "board" product that my Dad used to finish a back porch into a bedroom and frame a closet into the room. I am sure he used it because it was cheap. It was about a half inch thick but almost powdery at the edges. You could grab an edge between a thumb and forefinger and crumble it. You could easily punch a fist through it. It came in sheets like dry wall, but was much lighter. I doubt it is made any longer. Does anyone know what this crap was? We used to use a lot of something like that as a sound deadener underneath plywood on theatre scenery platforms. We called it sound deadening board. It was cheap. A step up from that would be homasote, a little denser and more grey colored. Then there was an exterior fiberboard sheathing that was treated to be water-resistant. It was black and in my early carpentering days we called it n-word board. (On edit: Celotex.) Thanks, David. Sounds like homasote may be what Dad used. I Googled it and the description seems right.
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Post by billhammond on May 27, 2021 10:29:12 GMT -5
Thanks, David. Sounds like homasote may be what Dad used. I Googled it and the description seems right. So, he was a homasotual? (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)
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Post by Marty on May 27, 2021 10:53:29 GMT -5
From what I know HPL= High Pressure Laminate is also called Formica. While not something I would use for a solid body electric Martin does use it on their low end acoustic line. I have made very nice looking, durable, and scratch resistant solid body pickguards out of it. It comes in almost any color or finish imaginable. Wood, stone or even prints.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on May 27, 2021 11:43:23 GMT -5
Thanks, David. Sounds like homasote may be what Dad used. I Googled it and the description seems right. So, he was a homasotual? (Not that there's anything wrong with that!) Yes, but he cleverly concealed it by fathering four kids.😄
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Post by Marty on May 27, 2021 21:53:24 GMT -5
I have the templates to do this in a Tele, Jazzmaster or Duo Sonic. The look is cool but I don't think the material has much sustain due to all the glue.
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Post by dradtke on May 28, 2021 11:17:23 GMT -5
Too bad you couldn't strip the stuff off the sides of the truck, as well.
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Post by billhammond on Jun 1, 2021 8:27:30 GMT -5
Meanwhile ...
By John Reinan / Star Tribune
Just about everything in your home traveled on a wooden shipping pallet.
In our worldwide economy, the humble pine pallet is the way that goods move around the globe. Demand for pallets is so great that American manufacturers — including many in Minnesota — churn out nearly 1 billion of them every year.
And right now, it's not enough.
A worldwide shortage of pallets threatens to put a crimp in the flow of consumer goods, from tomatoes to toothpaste to toasters. Prices have doubled in the past year, and makers can't keep up with demand.
"I think it's a perfect storm," said Al Raushel, one of four brothers who own Savanna Pallets in McGregor, Minn. One of the Midwest's largest pallet manufacturers, Savanna turns out more than 10,000 pallets a day.
"There's a trucking shortage," Raushel said. "We're struggling to find people to staff our operations, and we're having some trouble getting material into our facilities."
The problem, Raushel and others said, is linked to a surge in the economy as the COVID-19 pandemic dies down. Companies of all kinds slowed their operations last year as the pandemic forced restrictions on activity.
Now, as business begins to pick up, sawmills aren't staffed. Truckers are on the sidelines. Korean nail factories are running months behind in filling orders.
And pallet makers often are bidding for scarce wood against homebuilders. Result: The price of wood, in some cases, has tripled. Bottom line, a new pallet that sold a year ago for $12 to $14 now costs $25 to $28.
"There just isn't enough [wood] to go around," said Tim Logan, owner of Viking Pallet in Maple Grove. "It's just a constant headache."
Logan spends much of his time these days trying to find wood, trucks, nails and workers.
"You're just running from crisis to crisis," he said. At least Logan doesn't have to worry about finding customers. Viking Pallet is turning away new accounts in order to be sure it can take care of its existing customers.
Pallets are a relatively new invention, dating from the 1930s. In recent decades, they've become the standard for shipping consumer goods. Pallets lend themselves to automation, saving time and money for the companies that use them.
According to the National Wood Pallet and Container Association, pallets are used by 93% of all companies that handle materials.
"I can't think of much that's produced in our country right now that's not shipped on pallets," said Rob Schultz, vice president of business development at J&B Pallet in Lake City.
"Unfortunately, it's gonna affect everything."
Not everyone is feeling the shortage. C.H. Robinson, the Eden Prairie company that's the world's largest shipper of truckload freight, has kept up so far, although it's lined up a second pallet source just in case.
"A month ago the pallet shortage was challenging, but now it is in a better place," said Greg West, the company's vice president of North American surface transportation. "While we've seen some shortages, our primary pallet producer is keeping up with demand.
"It is difficult to predict what it will look like next month," West added. "When the pandemic hit, lumber companies cut production, and then business came roaring back at double digits. That means that supply was tight, whether you were making pallets or furniture or even building houses."
For now, pallet producers in Minnesota and elsewhere will keep scrambling, hoping to get out in front of the surge.
Raushel said with a sigh, "We would like to see a level of normalcy."
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