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Post by majorminor on Jun 2, 2021 9:03:53 GMT -5
Beginning last hunting season after some long hikes in deep snow I'm starting to have some constant low grade hip and very low back pain. It's come and gone a few times and now that summer hiking season is getting back in gear it's back. Hips ache, sitting in a car for much more than hour sucks. I took a fall a several years back and cracked some ribs, bruised hip and back pretty badly and spent a month sleeping in a chair. I look pretty crooked from the back with my right shoulder a few inches lower than my left. I feel like my right foot is hitting the ground slightly before my left, and at a recent visit my GP checked that and thought I was probably right about that. He recommended a slight lift in the left shoe and chiro and maybe massage.
I'm to the point I think I'm going to go see someone. That chiro stuff work?
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Post by coachdoc on Jun 2, 2021 9:11:23 GMT -5
Chiro OK. Osteopath better.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 2, 2021 9:26:41 GMT -5
I'd be leery. My impression of Chiro is like a carpenter with only a hammer. When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. So, if your problems really are nail related, he can do you some good. If there's some other problem you're in for some useless pounding.
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Post by epaul on Jun 2, 2021 9:53:51 GMT -5
I'm with Marshall and Doc.
Personally, I wouldn't go near a chiropractor as I hold it to be just one step above quackery, but, it does work for some people for certain things. So, it can't hurt to try it. The only harm will be to your billfold.
Osteopathy is a better deal, in my book. I don't really know what it is, but I think it is legit. My wife sees an Ostdoc when her back acts up (her regular family doc sent her to one) and the treatments and proscribed exercises strike me as solid and 4-square.
So, see a regular doctor, see a chiroquack, and see a Ostepath.
If none of the above work, the Maki Boys have opened up a clinic of sorts in a back room at the Hobo. Beer, pickled eggs, and some Maki-style wrestling are involved.
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Post by james on Jun 2, 2021 9:57:34 GMT -5
On one of the YouTube sailing channels that I follow, Jules and Susan on Emerald Steel, the skipper has done his back in. Susan was trying out a massager on him in the latest video. It looked quite nifty.
Susan made a short video about her lower back pain exercise a couple of weeks ago. (No.198). I have been easing myself into the regimen.
ETA - I went to a chiropractor a few years ago with a cricked neck. I felt some temporary relief but I think that was from the heat lamp and TENS(?) device he used rather than the bone clunking. My discomfort ended up worse.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jun 2, 2021 10:28:08 GMT -5
I have had good chiro results. Differing chiro skills vary.
The most success I have had in solving lower back pain comes from standup paddle boarding. It strengthens your core tummy muscles and when that happens. Lower back pain disapeers. At least for me.
Mike
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Post by epaul on Jun 2, 2021 11:03:27 GMT -5
If it turns out that one leg needs to be lengthened some, I definitely recommend seeing the Maki Boys. Just tell them how much and they'll take care of it.
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Post by TKennedy on Jun 2, 2021 11:15:21 GMT -5
We saw a lot of patients that had been treated by a chiropractor. My assessment was that there were a few good ones that had figured out what they could treat and what should be referred.
The defining characteristic was that they would tell the patient that if they couldn't help them after several treatments then they should seek a medical evaluation. I had one old time chiro in another town that with an acute back or neck syndrome could sometimes work miracles with a couple of manipulations. I actually referred a few people to him.
The ones to stay away from seemed to be the ones that wanted to take a ton of X-rays and sign a patient up for six weeks of treatments three times a week. Usually wanted to sell them some dietary supplements too after running a blood or urine “screen” to determine what they were lacking.
Many musculoskeletal conditions cure themselves in a few months so frequently prolonged chiropractic (or medical) treatment simply creates the illusion of a cure when the body is actually fixing itself.
Your problem sounds like something more chronic so I would lean towards a full evaluation by a DO or Orthopedist. A lot of time you actually save time and money by going to a specialist right away.
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Post by epaul on Jun 2, 2021 11:21:17 GMT -5
... T he ones to stay away from seemed to be the ones that wanted to take a ton of X-rays and sign a patient up for six weeks of treatments three times a week. Usually wanted to sell them some dietary supplements too after running a blood of urine “screen” to determine what they were lacking.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jun 2, 2021 11:24:27 GMT -5
If it turns out that one leg needs to be lengthened some, I definitely recommend seeing the Maki Boys. Just tell them how much and they'll take care of it. My left leg is 1-1/2 inches short. Do the Maki boys make house calls? Newfolden is a little far from me. |
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Post by epaul on Jun 2, 2021 11:24:37 GMT -5
(DO = Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine)
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Post by epaul on Jun 2, 2021 11:27:36 GMT -5
My left leg is 1-1/2 inches short. Do the Maki boys make house calls? ... They do. But, no, you don't do that. Trust me. You do not want to do that. |
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Post by Shannon on Jun 2, 2021 11:33:45 GMT -5
We saw a lot of patients that had been treated by a chiropractor. My assessment was that there were a few good ones that had figured out what they could treat and what should be referred. The defining characteristic was that they would tell the patient that if they couldn't help them after several treatments then they should seek a medical evaluation. I had one old time chiro in another town that with an acute back or neck syndrome could sometimes work miracles with a couple of manipulations. I actually referred a few people to him. The ones to stay away from seemed to be the ones that wanted to take a ton of X-rays and sign a patient up for six weeks of treatments three times a week. Usually wanted to sell them some dietary supplements too after running a blood or urine “screen” to determine what they were lacking. Many musculoskeletal conditions cure themselves in a few months so frequently prolonged chiropractic (or medical) treatment simply creates the illusion of a cure when the body is actually fixing itself. Your problem sounds like something more chronic so I would lean towards a full evaluation by a DO or Orthopedist. A lot of time you actually save time and money by going to a specialist right away. What he said. |
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Post by Jawbone on Jun 2, 2021 11:43:53 GMT -5
Had I to do my lower back pain over, I would get an MRI the first thing. I would have saved 20 years of pain.
Had three Chiros, all turned out to be money hungry ducks.
I'm thinking you have a case of arthritis which no chiropractor can fix.
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Post by majorminor on Jun 2, 2021 11:49:37 GMT -5
Hmmmm. My GP doc is a new younger guy that(I think)bought in to the practice last year after my old Doc retired. I just saw the new guy last week for my annual and mentioned my back issue wherein the new guy recommended, stretching, a slight lift in one shoe, lose some weight, and some sessions with a chiropractor might be helpful. I just Googled Osteopathic Medicine in my area which took me to my new doc's CV as a graduate of "Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine, Kirksville, MO". Hmmmm.
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Post by epaul on Jun 2, 2021 11:56:01 GMT -5
It's looking more and more like the Maki Boys.
Lucky for you, the entire clan is thinking about moving to western Montana.
(they heard there were all kinds of places there named after "Beer", places like Beer Creek, Beer Mountain, Beertooth Pass, and Beer Valley.)
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Post by millring on Jun 2, 2021 13:15:06 GMT -5
The odd reason I have whatever trust I have in chiropractic (or acupuncture, for that matter) is because I've witnessed its effectiveness on dogs. They can't be fooled into thinking that a treatment works. There are either results or there aren't. Since there were, I believe in some effectiveness.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jun 2, 2021 13:17:13 GMT -5
I’d stay away from DOs. Doctors of Ornithology are bird brains.
Mike
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Post by kbcolorado on Jun 2, 2021 13:46:59 GMT -5
It really helps if you can get a recommendation from someone local who has been helped by a chiropractor and can give you details on how they go about their work. My experience is the ones that get you in and out in 10 minutes are to be avoided. If they take the time with massage and/or electro stim prior to adjustment they are better. My neck issues can be "fixed" by any chiro, only the very best of them have given me relief from my lower back problem. I was very surprised that my "hip" soreness was radiating from my lower back as all my symptoms felt like they were in my hip. Had a great D.O. in Denver but they are rare as hen's teeth in our rural environment.
The one thing I can do at home that gives me instant relief from low back pain flareups is stretching my hamstrings.
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Post by billhammond on Jun 2, 2021 13:57:20 GMT -5
The one thing I can do at home that gives me instant relief from low back pain flareups is stretching my hamstrings. PETA demands that you switch to yamstrings. - B. Yammond |
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