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Post by Marshall on Dec 23, 2021 22:27:22 GMT -5
Actually at the Oak Brook Shopping Center. Getting real dicey out there. All we know is 2 guys who knew each other got into an argument and opened fire on each other. One guy hit 3 times. 3 women bystanders also hit. The second perp is at large.
Sad times.
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Post by Marshall on Dec 23, 2021 22:58:01 GMT -5
TV just posted a security camera pic of the guy they’re looking for. F***ing gang bangers ! Ghetto culture is spilling out all over. Everybody’s got a Saturday night special and the machismo to whip it out.
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Post by Marty on Dec 24, 2021 0:29:34 GMT -5
TV just posted a security camera pic of the guy they’re looking for. F***ing gang bangers ! Ghetto culture is spilling out all over. Everybody’s got a Saturday night special and the machismo to whip it out. Actually everybody has a compact 9mm or .380. Usually unregistered and stolen, because of that they don't get proper instruction. There is a whole lot more to a gun than just pulling it out and shooting, a whole lot more. I own 4 real Saturday Night Specials, Doug liked to collect them also. In a fight they are worthless, more danger to innocent bystanders and the person shooting than the one being shot at. |
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Post by Dub on Dec 24, 2021 0:41:33 GMT -5
Back in my day the gangs used zip guns. Also chains, switchblade knives, and fist packs made with a church key (beer can opener) sticking out one end to claw open their opponents faces. |
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Post by jdd2 on Dec 24, 2021 0:49:04 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Dec 24, 2021 2:01:29 GMT -5
Actually everybody has a compact 9mm or .380. Usually unregistered and stolen, because of that they don't get proper instruction... Isn't that a good thing? Do you really want to improve their aim and teach them how to increase the reliability of their piece? |
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Post by Dub on Dec 24, 2021 2:11:00 GMT -5
Actually everybody has a compact 9mm or .380. Usually unregistered and stolen, because of that they don't get proper instruction... Isn't that a good thing? Do you really want to improve their aim and teach them how to increase the reliability of their piece? Actually, having the gangs well trained in firearms might be good. Those people are only after each other. We don’t want them shooting bystanders, we want their aim to be deadly. The ones who shoot lots of people are mostly loners, not gang members. |
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Post by epaul on Dec 24, 2021 2:20:31 GMT -5
Good point.
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Post by Marshall on Dec 24, 2021 9:01:43 GMT -5
Isn't that a good thing? Do you really want to improve their aim and teach them how to increase the reliability of their piece? Actually, having the gangs well trained in firearms might be good. Those people are only after each other. We don’t want them shooting bystanders, we want their aim to be deadly. The ones who shoot lots of people are mostly loners, not gang members. Don't know where you're getting your information, Donald. (Just teasing you, Mark). Around here there's lots of street shootouts. Would seem like strange behavior for lonely people. Last night the cops said the perps "were known to each other." Coded talk, me suspects, for rival social clubs. |
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Post by drlj on Dec 24, 2021 9:20:44 GMT -5
A lot of the guns used in Chicago area shootings have been traced to Indiana gun shows. There are weekly gun shows/swaps in the area that attract a lot of IL license plates.
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Post by Marty on Dec 24, 2021 9:27:28 GMT -5
Isn't that a good thing? Do you really want to improve their aim and teach them how to increase the reliability of their piece? Actually, having the gangs well trained in firearms might be good. Those people are only after each other. We don’t want them shooting bystanders, we want their aim to be deadly. The ones who shoot lots of people are mostly loners, not gang members. Dub got it. Let them kill each other off. |
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Post by Marshall on Dec 24, 2021 9:56:38 GMT -5
Yeahbut, on 12/23 at the second largest shopping center in the metro area at the busiest shopping time of the year is not the place you want 2 bangers to settle up scores.
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Post by Dub on Dec 24, 2021 9:59:35 GMT -5
Actually, having the gangs well trained in firearms might be good. Those people are only after each other. We don’t want them shooting bystanders, we want their aim to be deadly. The ones who shoot lots of people are mostly loners, not gang members. Don't know where you're getting your information, Donald. Around here there's lots of street shootouts. Would seem like strange behavior for lonely people. Last night the cops said the perps "were known to each other." Coded talk, me suspects, for rival social clubs. I didn’t mean to imply that gang members don’t shoot lots of people, only that their targets are mostly other gang members. Innocent people may be shot in a gang shootout but they aren’t the intended victims. The people who commit mass murder of unarmed innocent people are mostly loners and I don’t recall reading about any who were gang members. Iowa seems to have lots of gun shows too. Since I don’t attend them, I have no idea how many out-of-state people show up. |
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Post by drlj on Dec 24, 2021 10:05:37 GMT -5
Don't know where you're getting your information, Donald. Around here there's lots of street shootouts. Would seem like strange behavior for lonely people. Last night the cops said the perps "were known to each other." Coded talk, me suspects, for rival social clubs. I didn’t mean to imply that gang members don’t shoot lots of people, only that their targets are mostly other gang members. Innocent people may be shot in a gang shootout but they aren’t the intended victims. The people who commit mass murder of unarmed innocent people are mostly loners and I don’t recall reading about any who were gang members. Iowa seems to have lots of gun shows too. Since I don’t attend them, I have no idea how many out-of-state people show up. Not being the intended victim doesn’t make a person any less dead. Chicago has buried quite a few unintended victims in the last year. |
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Post by Dub on Dec 24, 2021 10:05:51 GMT -5
Yeahbut, on 12/23 at the second largest shopping center in the metro area at the busiest shopping time of the year is not the place you want 2 bangers to settle up scores. Of course not, Marshall. I don’t want gang members shooting it out anywhere any time. I was only thinking that public safety might benefit from . . . Oh never mind. Blessed holidays to you and yours. |
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Post by aquaduct on Dec 24, 2021 10:22:52 GMT -5
Well it is Chicago and you did vote for the people in charge. Just saying.....
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Post by Dub on Dec 24, 2021 10:28:37 GMT -5
Well it is Chicago and you did vote for the people in charge. Just saying..... Ha! Of course this shootout happened many miles from Chicago and we have no SoundHolers voting in Chicago. I think Chicago is a much different city than it was when I lived there in the 1960s and 70s. |
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Post by theevan on Dec 24, 2021 10:32:43 GMT -5
I live in a majority black city and yes, ghetto culture is spilling out everywhere. Malls have become a common gang battleground.
Just over the fence not 50 yards from our house a gun battle between two cars happened in broad daylight. About 6 weeks ago. They just caught one of the shooters in Georgia.
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Post by TKennedy on Dec 24, 2021 10:44:05 GMT -5
In the 80’s when the kids were in H.S. there was a French exchange student in one of their classes. Once he remarked how surprised he was not to be seeing gun battles in the street every day. Even back then that was their concept of America.
Probably a little like American BBC watchers going to England and being surprised that there aren’t several murders a week in the quiet little country villages.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Dec 24, 2021 10:48:26 GMT -5
In the 80’s when the kids were in H.S. there was a French exchange student in one of their classes. Once he remarked how surprised he was not to be seeing gun battles in the street every day. Even back then that was their concept of America. Probably a little like American BBC watchers going to England and being surprised that there aren’t several murders a week in the quiet little country villages. I’d stay out of Midsummer if I were you. Mike |
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