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Post by majorminor on Sept 24, 2022 16:52:04 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Sept 24, 2022 19:34:15 GMT -5
Pretty much how Terry does it.
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Post by TKennedy on Sept 24, 2022 20:25:55 GMT -5
That’s actually pretty cool. A lot of the machines like the plate joining wheel and the end and headblock clamping fixtures and the neck CNC router look like they copied them from Martin as I remember my factory tour there.
Finally a look at the Asian mystery glue that resists all efforts to loosen. Those necks ain’t comin off!
I was pretty impressed until the parts that actually impact playability. Fretwork, neck set, setup, etc. Might have been just the editing but it looked like maybe a few corners were cut there.
I watched the worker position and score around the bridge and all of a sudden the finish was gone and it looked like they were gluing to bare wood. Maybe the area was masked with thin tape before finish.
One thing that made me cringe was drilling the bridge plate for the pins. Didn’t look like any backup caul was in place. Now I know why all those Asian guitars have areas of the bridge plate split out around the holes.
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Post by Village Idiot on Sept 24, 2022 20:59:42 GMT -5
That was fascinating to watch. I have no skills in that regard, but it all makes sense.
Terry says:
So what is the Asian mystery glue?
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Post by theevan on Sept 25, 2022 4:10:57 GMT -5
That was fascinating to watch. I have no skills in that regard, but it all makes sense. Terry says: So what is the Asian mystery glue? Todd, it's a mystery.
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Post by drlj on Sept 25, 2022 7:34:16 GMT -5
That was amazing to watch. I wondered how long it took for that glue to dry as well as what it was.
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Post by millring on Sept 25, 2022 8:01:17 GMT -5
It's interesting to contemplate what machines do better than the hand ever could, and what we can add to the process that machines cannot. In the pottery world a certain degree of natural evolution of shape occurs by incident of the hand. That leads to lots of failures, but lots of interesting changes (usually aesthetically speaking). But when function is of primary importance, it seems the machine can cut out the human error. Of course, to use machines in that way, you have to be pretty certain going in that you KNOW exactly what you want, because no mistakes leading to improvement will ever happen.
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Post by TKennedy on Sept 25, 2022 9:16:19 GMT -5
I neglected to mention that the one thing in the video I had never seen before was the duplicarver-type machine that cut the dovetail by tracing the already routed mortise in the body.
That was cool.
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Post by Dub on Sept 25, 2022 12:04:11 GMT -5
And there’s one for Gene.
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Post by drlj on Sept 25, 2022 13:21:43 GMT -5
My Konkoly was handmade by one guy in his shop. He used Elderly’s spray booth to shoot the finish, but everything else, shaping, sanding, fitting, gluing, was done by Joe in his shop. I visited while he was building and we worked out the neck shape I wanted. I was able to select the wood. I watched him shape the the braces. I suppose it resulted in a guitar that will show human imperfection and the next one he built, though called by the same model designation, has differences from mine. What I have is a wonderful guitar that is unlike anything else I own or have owned and that makes it extra special to me. Watching that video made me think each of those guitars was going to be exactly like the others. If you got one and it was stolen or destroyed, you could easily grab it’s clone and probably never know the difference. What makes my Konkoly special to me is absent in those guitars. I realize that wouldn’t matter to a lot of people and that’s ok. It sure matters to me, though.
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Post by John B on Sept 25, 2022 13:30:33 GMT -5
My Konkoly was handmade by one guy in his shop. He used Elderly’s spray booth to shoot the finish, but everything else, shaping, sanding, fitting, gluing, was done by Joe in his shop. I visited while he was building and we worked out the neck shape I wanted. I was able to select the wood. I watched him shape the the braces. I suppose it resulted in a guitar that will show human imperfection and the next one he built, though called by the same model designation, has differences from mine. It is a wonderful guitar that is unlike anything else I own or have owned and that makes it extra special to me. Watching that video made me think each of those guitars was going to be exactly like the others. If you got one and it was stolen or destroyed, you could easily grab it’s clone and probably never know the difference. What makes my Konkoly special to me is absent in those guitars. I realize that wouldn’t matter to a lot of people and that’s ok. It sure matters to me, though. Also, your guitar was built by an excellent repairman. Which means it's more likely he built it to be somewhat more repairable than let's say a typical Martin. As Rick Turner once said to me, "I've done more neck resets in one year than a typical builder has done in his entire building career. Now who's more likely to get the neck set right, me or that guy?"
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Post by drlj on Sept 25, 2022 13:34:09 GMT -5
My Konkoly was handmade by one guy in his shop. He used Elderly’s spray booth to shoot the finish, but everything else, shaping, sanding, fitting, gluing, was done by Joe in his shop. I visited while he was building and we worked out the neck shape I wanted. I was able to select the wood. I watched him shape the the braces. I suppose it resulted in a guitar that will show human imperfection and the next one he built, though called by the same model designation, has differences from mine. It is a wonderful guitar that is unlike anything else I own or have owned and that makes it extra special to me. Watching that video made me think each of those guitars was going to be exactly like the others. If you got one and it was stolen or destroyed, you could easily grab it’s clone and probably never know the difference. What makes my Konkoly special to me is absent in those guitars. I realize that wouldn’t matter to a lot of people and that’s ok. It sure matters to me, though. Also, your guitar was built by an excellent repairman. Which means it's more likely he built it to be somewhat more repairable than let's say a typical Martin. As Rick Turner once said to me, "I've done more neck resets in one year than a typical builder has done in his entire building career. Now who's more likely to get the neck set right, me or that guy?" Right. Joe regularly works on instruments that have a higher value than my house. He is amazing to watch.
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