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The Chosen
Nov 29, 2022 12:44:59 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 29, 2022 12:44:59 GMT -5
This may only be of interest to Millring and Evan here but what the heck.
Got a new TV for the living room for the first time in about 15 years over the weekend and got it set up and hooked into the sound system Sunday. Beautiful LG 65 inch true black model. Sat down to watch it yesterday and the first thing the dialed up is this series. It's about the ministry 3 years of Jesus. Now I'm not a big TV watcher, but I spent a few hours last night glued to the first 4 episodes and I'll be back at it as soon as I can find more time.
I still haven't figured out how this came about- it's apparently crowd funded and those numbers are mind blowing. About $10 million a season from some 150,000 contributors- each season. It's in its 3rd season with it playing somewhat haphazardly in I guess whatever theater will have it. It's also apparently available online somewhere. The first 2 seasons are available for free on Amazon Prime.
It's in English but they're working on having it translated to something like 180 languages with worldwide distribution.
It's all about how the people around Jesus are transformed by the encounter with him. And it shifts time back and forth as characters are introduced and then later meet Jesus. Mary Magdalene, for instance, is first shown as a child in 29 BC and then shifting to meeting Jesus in about 30 AD when Jesus just starts showing up in Galilee (a lot of this calls back to my Sunday school years so I'm not completely sure that's the right town).
Anyways, this grumpy old coot is hooked. Well worth the investment.
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Post by theevan on Nov 29, 2022 12:55:30 GMT -5
I might need to give it another shot. I watched the first couple of hours and called it quits. I'm so steeped in the bible that I guess I recoil when liberties are taken.
Am I inconsistent? You bet. All sorts of well-considered liberties are taken with the Ark Encounter, but I was transfixed by the whole thing. Great attraction...for me.
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Post by james on Nov 29, 2022 13:24:16 GMT -5
The Ark Encounter/Answers in Genesis (?) Facebook page blocked me. Jeff Miller's, (Fauxmaha) is the only other FB page to have done that, (that I'm aware of). Ho hum. 🤐 🙂
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Post by theevan on Nov 29, 2022 18:32:52 GMT -5
The Ark Encounter/Answers in Genesis (?) Facebook page blocked me. Jeff Miller's, (Fauxmaha) is the only other FB page to have done that, (that I'm aware of). Ho hum. 🤐 🙂 The whole social media policing thing mystifies me. You're just a guy calling up the page Why would it/could it block you? Why would it even want to block you? Grasping at straws, but do you have some kind of background program running they could detect that they would want to block?
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Post by james on Nov 29, 2022 18:41:48 GMT -5
Anyone can block any visitors and/or commenters they choose to from visiting/seeing their Facebook and Twitter etc. accounts for any or no particular reason. If I were to lavish praise on the magnificence of Bristol Rovers Football Club on Bristol City's social media accounts for instance, those accounts might block me.
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Post by theevan on Nov 29, 2022 20:52:04 GMT -5
But how would the ark people even know you? Why would they care?
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Post by Shannon on Nov 29, 2022 20:54:32 GMT -5
I've watched most of the first season. I found much of it thought-provoking, and all of it well done.
Like Evan, I have some qualms about some of the liberties taken. They don't really affect me; I know my Bible fairly well, so I recognize the liberties when I see them. I wonder about what the effect might be on someone without a good Biblical background. Maybe none, but I wonder.
I agree, Peter, that it is a wonder that the series exists in the first place. It is quite a story.
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Post by james on Nov 29, 2022 21:51:08 GMT -5
But how would the ark people even know you? Why would they care? I expressed concern in an Answers in Genesis FB page, (Ken Ham) comment thread with extremely homophobic opinions being shared and was quickly blocked by the page administrator.
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The Chosen
Nov 29, 2022 22:10:42 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 29, 2022 22:10:42 GMT -5
I might need to give it another shot. I watched the first couple of hours and called it quits. I'm so steeped in the bible that I guess I recoil when liberties are taken. Am I inconsistent? You bet. All sorts of well-considered liberties are taken with the Ark Encounter, but I was transfixed by the whole thing. Great attraction...for me. My wife brought it up in our Bible study tonight and the teacher had pretty much the same reaction as you. There were creative embellishments that weren't particularly blasphemous and he enjoyed the first season. But then in the second season some got kind of silly and his interest fell off. He may revisit it depending on his time allotment and the current annual crop of mild illness with his kids, but who knows. So we'll see as it goes. Thanks for the response.
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The Chosen
Nov 29, 2022 22:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 29, 2022 22:40:33 GMT -5
But how would the ark people even know you? Why would they care? I expressed concern in an Answers in Genesis FB page, (Ken Ham) comment thread with extremely homophobic opinions being shared and was quickly blocked by the page administrator. Sounds suspiciously like the kind of stuff that Jeff banned you for.
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Post by james on Nov 29, 2022 22:48:51 GMT -5
There was no vicious Old Testament stuff on Jeff's FB.
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The Chosen
Nov 29, 2022 23:13:42 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 29, 2022 23:13:42 GMT -5
There was no vicious Old Testament stuff on Jeff's FB. Oh, I know all about why he banned you. Again, sounds suspiciously similar.
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Post by epaul on Nov 29, 2022 23:14:17 GMT -5
I got banned from the Hobo Haus once.
Don't want to go into detail, but it was a brutal, and very lonely, week.
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Post by theevan on Nov 30, 2022 4:15:06 GMT -5
Okay, so it wasn't a bot, algorithm or random. That answers my question.
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Post by millring on Nov 30, 2022 5:28:58 GMT -5
I watched an episode or two. It's an interesting attempt. If one accepts the Bible (and especially the Gospels) as something more closely akin to history, they're going to watch and critique it one way. If one accepts the Bible as myth, they'll probably view it another way. If one accepts the Bible as a redemption narrative from Genesis to Revelation, they'll likely be watching for that. If one accepts the Bible as the giving of moral law and tips for better living, they'll be watching for that.
And all the shades in between.
Orthodoxy (not Eastern Orthodox) has always held that the incarnation is a paradox -- that, though unexplainable, Jesus was both man and god -- not in a 50/50 way, but in an (again, unexplainable) 100/100 way. Growing up at the intersection of Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism and Reformed theology (Presbyterian) in the 60s, I can attest to the fact that that subculture stumbled most deeply in accepting the humanity of Jesus. They intellectually assented to it, but practically rejected it. That's where my fascination lies -- and where my critical eye falls when watching attempts to portray Jesus.
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Post by Russell Letson on Nov 30, 2022 11:46:22 GMT -5
If I recall correctly (it was, after all, sixty years ago), one of the first theology courses at Le Moyne was Christology, which was organized largely as an historical account of the crucial doctrinal arguments that divided early Christianity for nearly 500 years. Thus I can still explain (somewhat haltingly now) the hypostatic union, monophytism, and the difference between homoousion and homoiousion. Recalling this is not unlike digging around in the closet and finding a box of perfectly good, well-made clothes that no longer fit.
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Post by aquaduct on Dec 1, 2022 18:56:27 GMT -5
I might need to give it another shot. I watched the first couple of hours and called it quits. I'm so steeped in the bible that I guess I recoil when liberties are taken. Am I inconsistent? You bet. All sorts of well-considered liberties are taken with the Ark Encounter, but I was transfixed by the whole thing. Great attraction...for me. Ah, I now see what you mean. Over the last 2 nights we've watched the entire first season (I guess it's only 8 episodes per season) and last night covered Nicodemus meeting with Jesus after witnessing a couple miracles and the dialogue stuck strictly to scripture. Then shortly after that Jesus asks Nicodemus to basically leave his life and family to follow him and Nicodemus is really upset and implies that he's being selfish. This really bugged my wife since Jesus appeared to ask Nicodemus to abandon his marriage and family which would clearly not ever be the case. It bugged my wife so much she emailed the Bible study teacher and he confirmed that that ask is nowhere in scripture. In scripture after the meeting Nicodemus is not mentioned until after the crucifiction where he helps to bury Christ as a dissenter from the Sanhedron crew supporting Jesus' execution. So again, thank you for stepping up and commenting. I appreciate it.
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