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Post by TKennedy on Feb 24, 2023 8:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by John B on Feb 24, 2023 8:56:59 GMT -5
Well, it would be easier to ban those weapons if we can just say, "ban the national gun." Much more specific of a killing machine than the misnomer "assault rifle." (Just kidding, of course, tongue firmly in cheek)
Isn't using NATO rounds a little "one world order?" Whatever happened to the good ol' .45, and any other caliber that doesn't need to have three decimals when converted to US measurements?
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Post by Russell Letson on Feb 24, 2023 10:17:59 GMT -5
Hey--don't be dissin' the .30-30, let alone the .357!
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Post by theevan on Feb 24, 2023 10:28:41 GMT -5
A church colleague offered to sell me his original issue Yugoslav SKS (an AK47 variant complete with folding stock and bayonet!). I've good things about the AK but this thing is not for me. My buddy Bruce, a certified gun guy, bought his daughter's AR15 variant when she needed cash. I shot it and that thing is sweet.
Too much money thought and I don't need it so...
Funny, I've failed to follow the same logic when it comes to guitars.
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Post by Dub on Feb 24, 2023 15:30:36 GMT -5
I don’t think any “national” firearm designation is needed but, if it must be, surely the top candidates would be the “Brown Bess” or the Chareville musket. This would be in keeping with the Conservative notion that everything of a “national” nature (laws, mores, etc.) should be as they were in the late eighteenth century.
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Post by Russell Letson on Feb 24, 2023 15:42:25 GMT -5
Or the Kentucky long rifle.
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Post by Dub on Feb 24, 2023 15:50:42 GMT -5
Or the Kentucky long rifle. I considered that but it turns out those were regarded a civilian weapons not suited for military use. It’s clear that those pushing for a “national” rifle believe it should be suited for military use. |
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Post by drlj on Feb 24, 2023 16:04:25 GMT -5
I vote for the Daisy Red Ryder, the king of BB guns and the one I bought from the hardware store as a kid. No card, no can, no bottle was safe once I had my Daisy Red Ryder. I did shoot the neighbor kid in the butt with it but he sort of deserved it. No eyes were shot out in the shooting of my Red Ryder. I also shot a Christmas tree ornament in the living room from my bedroom which resulted in the Red Ryder being locked up for a month. Never made such a mistake again. I viewed it as learning gun safety.
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Post by aquaduct on Feb 24, 2023 17:23:10 GMT -5
Or the Kentucky long rifle. I considered that but it turns out those were regarded a civilian weapons not suited for military use. It’s clear that those pushing for a “national” rifle believe it should be suited for military use. The AR15 looks scary to people who know nothing about guns. But it's not a military weapon. Just a good, rifle preferred by numerous serious shooters. |
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Post by Cornflake on Feb 24, 2023 17:43:02 GMT -5
"Whatever happened to the good ol' .45, and any other caliber that doesn't need to have three decimals when converted to US measurements?" I don't know how to do such conversions. Until I gave it away a few years back, I had a Winchester .270 bolt-action. A good deer rifle for western conditions. It was on the light side for elk but I got elk with it. An internet photo:  I was never really a gun guy, in the same way that I've never been into cars. Both are tools to do a job, nothing more. |
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Feb 24, 2023 19:57:00 GMT -5
I think the 0.012 high E guitar string should be the national garrotte.
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Post by Cornflake on Feb 24, 2023 20:11:04 GMT -5
I was thinking about this subject. I was raised in Texas, with one foot in the country. I went to college in New York. In Texas, guns brought to mind my grandfather, killing rattlesnakes near the house, gathering food during the Depression and other good things. To my classmates from New York, guns brought to mind bad guys. The contrast was quite stark. There are quite a few people who still feel the way I did when I went off to college. Their share of the population has shrunk as the country has urbanized but they're out there. They're not bad people. They're just products of their background.
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Post by david on Feb 24, 2023 20:16:58 GMT -5
I too got an elk with a .270 - my brother's Ruger. Nice gun. I gave my 30.06 (a sportorized 1903 Springfield that I inherited from my dad) to my son. The only rifle I have now is a .22, and that is all I want.
The only AR-15 I shot was rather heavy, but it shot soft and I think that they are very durable.
I don't suppose that most house members are knowledgeable about guns, so I cannot fathom why they would determine what the National Gun of the United States should be. If it is for military purposes, it should be left to the military. Or maybe that was the point, that is, that the military asked the house to make it the standard military rifle?
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Post by aquaduct on Feb 24, 2023 20:27:44 GMT -5
I too got an elk with a .270 - my brother's Ruger. Nice gun. I gave my 30.06 (a sportorized 1903 Springfield that I inherited from my dad) to my son. The only rifle I have now is a .22, and that is all I want. The only AR-15 I shot was rather heavy, but it shot soft and I think that they are very durable. I don't suppose that most house members are knowledgeable about guns, so I cannot fathom why they would determine what the National Gun of the United States should be. If it is for military purposes, it should be left to the military. Or maybe that was the point, that is, that the military asked the house to make it the standard military rifle? It seems to me that it's the same as declaring some day as National Chocolate Ice Cream Day. It's not like Congress serves any other purpose these days. |
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Post by coachdoc on Feb 25, 2023 19:25:38 GMT -5
A church colleague offered to sell me his original issue Yugoslav SKS (an AK47 variant complete with folding stock and bayonet!). I've good things about the AK but this thing is not for me. My buddy Bruce, a certified gun guy, bought his daughter's AR15 variant when she needed cash. I shot it and that thing is sweet. Too much money thought and I don't need it so... Funny, I've failed to follow the same logic when it comes to guitars. There is not a guitar you don’t need. |
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Post by RickW on Feb 26, 2023 11:03:18 GMT -5
A church colleague offered to sell me his original issue Yugoslav SKS (an AK47 variant complete with folding stock and bayonet!). I've good things about the AK but this thing is not for me. My buddy Bruce, a certified gun guy, bought his daughter's AR15 variant when she needed cash. I shot it and that thing is sweet. Too much money thought and I don't need it so... Funny, I've failed to follow the same logic when it comes to guitars. There is not a guitar you don’t need. I was in the local guitar store on Friday, and eyeing a brand new Gibson ES335, for $5k. Because I always lusted after one. Susan firmly informed both me and the sales guy that I did NOT need it. I disagreed, however, was vetoed.  |
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Post by Marshall on Feb 28, 2023 16:36:27 GMT -5
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