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Post by Russell Letson on Apr 30, 2023 20:27:09 GMT -5
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Post by Marty on Apr 30, 2023 20:31:21 GMT -5
I'm going to go out on a limb here. I have not seen Martin guitars with a signature block at the end of the fingerboard, other than modern models, but I have seen old Larson guitars with them.
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Post by james on Apr 30, 2023 20:53:08 GMT -5
Link works. Ta.
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Post by Russell Letson on Apr 30, 2023 20:54:28 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on May 2, 2023 8:16:19 GMT -5
I have a paperback copy of "The Art and Times of the Guitar" by Frederic V. Grunfeld. It goes through the history of the guitar from ancient times to present (1974). And it shows paintings through the ages that depict guitars and guitar playing. I love it. The Guitarist - Eduard Manet. 1861
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Post by Marty on May 2, 2023 8:34:52 GMT -5
Not the same guitar, if that's what you meant. There was a Benton Music shop in Downtown St Paul that closed in the early 70s, I doubt the same family. They carried a house brand of guitars in their earlier years. Those were made by Larson and looked a great deal like the guitar in the painting. Lyon & Healy made that style of guitar also. very much in the Martin 0, 2, 16, 17 size.
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Post by Marty on May 2, 2023 8:38:57 GMT -5
I have a paperback copy of "The Art and Times of the Guitar" by Frederic V. Grunfeld. It goes through the history of the guitar from ancient times to present (1974). And it shows paintings through the ages that depict guitars and guitar playing. I love it. The Guitarist - Eduard Manet. 1861 Switch handed player, my own term, left handed on a right hand strung guitar. Mustacho bridge, horrid idea but they looked nice.
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Post by TKennedy on May 2, 2023 9:24:21 GMT -5
A friend gave me this picture soon after I opened my shop. I used it for the intro page on my website and Facebook page.
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Post by millring on May 2, 2023 10:49:57 GMT -5
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Post by Russell Letson on May 2, 2023 15:41:07 GMT -5
Not the same guitar, if that's what you meant. Nah--just that it was a nice photo of Benton (oops--Mrs. Benton?) playing a (much fancier) Martin. I do get the impression that the guitar in the painting is a particular instrument--the inlay at the bottom of the fingerboard, what look like three cracks in the lower bout, and signs of wear on the treble side of the waist. It's a real portrait.
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Post by millring on May 2, 2023 15:46:15 GMT -5
I do get the impression that the guitar in the painting is a particular instrument--the inlay at the bottom of the fingerboard, what look like three cracks in the lower bout, and signs of wear on the treble side of the waist. It's a real portrait. Nice catch. If I could ask him, I'd want to know how he arrived at his consistent distortions? Additionally, how they created the mood they did instead of monsters, and how he knew it would work? (on edit) ...and maybe if he worked from photographs, and if so, how?
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Post by millring on May 2, 2023 15:48:22 GMT -5
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Post by millring on May 2, 2023 15:50:24 GMT -5
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Post by millring on May 2, 2023 15:51:31 GMT -5
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Post by millring on May 2, 2023 15:52:05 GMT -5
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Post by millring on May 2, 2023 15:54:08 GMT -5
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Post by millring on May 2, 2023 16:00:31 GMT -5
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Post by John B on May 2, 2023 17:39:07 GMT -5
I do get the impression that the guitar in the painting is a particular instrument--the inlay at the bottom of the fingerboard, what look like three cracks in the lower bout, and signs of wear on the treble side of the waist. It's a real portrait. Nice catch. If I could ask him, I'd want to know how he arrived at his consistent distortions? Additionally, how they created the mood they did instead of monsters, and how he knew it would work? (on edit) ...and maybe if he worked from photographs, and if so, how? John, do you know much about Thomas Hart Benton? I think you would like him. As someone who grew up near KC, he was definitely locally celebrated. He has a very interesting history. He wrote a few autobiographies, which I have a feeling you might enjoy. He studied in Paris and NY. His "America Today" room-sized mural now at The Met was awe inspiring for me. www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/499559He was also a Chiefs fan: www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6107579He was also a harmonica player.
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Post by Russell Letson on May 2, 2023 19:21:10 GMT -5
Stuff rising up from the soggy bottom of my memory:
Benton's daughter Jessie was part of the Lyman Family/Fort Hill Community and helped bankroll it with the sale of one of her father's paintings. Mel Lyman was (kind of) part of the Kweskin Jug Band, a harmonica player featured on one album, "Jim Kweskin's America." Even in our hippydippy days, we found that LP strange, especially this seven-minute cut:
Rolling Stone ran a long, two-part piece on the Family, later included in Mindfuckers, published by the magazine's Straight Arrow Books. Lyman died in 1978 (probably from a drug overdose), but the Community kept on and was still around at least until 1985. Weird shit, mama.
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