Dub
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Post by Dub on Jun 29, 2023 1:43:19 GMT -5
… lays off its last remaining staff writers. This would break our late friend Chesapeake’s heart. He spent a lifetime helping to make NG the best it could be. Gift WaPo story
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Post by millring on Jun 29, 2023 4:50:46 GMT -5
Print media is going away and never coming back. R.R.Donnelley's is closing both their Warsaw (500+ employees) and Lancaster plants. I'm surprised they stayed in business this long.
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Post by aquaduct on Jun 29, 2023 5:06:05 GMT -5
Print media is going away and never coming back. R.R.Donnelley's is closing both their Warsaw (500+ employees) and Lancaster plants. I'm surprised they stayed in business this long. R.R.Donnelley shut down here in Strasburg shutdown a decade ago. The empty plant is down at the bottom of the hill. Now they've started to use a piece of that (the piece with loading docks) as a UPS hub. The rest is silent.
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Post by howard lee on Jun 29, 2023 6:30:48 GMT -5
Print media is going away and never coming back. R.R.Donnelley's is closing both their Warsaw (500+ employees) and Lancaster plants. I'm surprised they stayed in business this long.
This move away from print publishing is the reason I was job eliminated (laid off?) from a great magazine job at the end of 2005. I know it's part of our cultural evolution, but I still think it's a damn shame. Even the young writers I edit for the Web don't know the difference between simple things like "snugly" versus "snuggly." Or how to use a semi-colon, or a serial comma. Because in pop culture, everyone is texting in abbreviated phrasing and our formal written language has taken a major hit.
Of course, this hits closer to home for me, because I studied when formal English mattered more, my degree was in English Lit and Composition, and I have made my living in print publishing since 1975. Current technology has been its death knell.
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Post by Cornflake on Jun 29, 2023 7:18:40 GMT -5
Sorry to hear this. We may have to accept change but we don't have to like it.
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Post by billhammond on Jun 29, 2023 7:22:14 GMT -5
Print media is going away and never coming back. Meanwhile, in Flyover Land, the Star Tribune is now the nation's sixth largest newspaper, with print circulation of 242,270 daily and 351,180 Sunday (as of 2021).
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Post by drlj on Jun 29, 2023 7:51:25 GMT -5
When my dad died, back in the early 90s, he had National Geographic magazines going back 30-40 years. They were all neatly stacked and took up a large part of a spare bedroom.
We could not give the things away. Libraries didn’t want them, schools didn’t want them, friends didn’t want them, used bookstores didn’t want them. Nobody wanted them. I don’t recall what my brother & I finally did with them when cleaning out the house after both parents died, but I know it was a pain in the butt getting rid of them. Probably they were hauled to a paper recycler. I kind of recall loading bundles up in my car trunk** 10 or 12 times. Maybe there is a ditch somewhere still filled with National Geographics. I may have pulled a few issues but, if I did, those are long gone, too.
I read an article a couple years back by a Boomer who was cleaning out his parents house and found a stash of NGs going back 30-40 years. He was shocked that libraries didn’t want them, schools didn’t want them, friends didn’t want them, and used bookstores didn’t want them. He said he was going to haul them to a paper recycler. Guy should have asked me. I could have saved him some time.
**James, what you call the boot, we call the trunk. Who knows why?
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Post by Tamarack on Jun 29, 2023 8:48:19 GMT -5
This is distressing and depressing (although not surprising). I have been reading National Geographic since I learned to read. It inspired adventures in my youth, now it provides armchair adventures.
Like most people, I used to accumulate back issues. Now I recycle them as soon as I am done reading them.
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Post by jdd2 on Jun 29, 2023 9:03:37 GMT -5
When my dad died, back in the early 90s, he had National Geographic magazines going back 30-40 years. They were all neatly stacked and took up a large part of a spare bedroom. We could not give the things away. Libraries didn’t want them, schools didn’t want them, friends didn’t want them, used bookstores didn’t want them. Nobody wanted them. I don’t recall what my brother & I finally did with them when cleaning out the house after both parents died, but I know it was a pain in the butt getting rid of them. Probably they were hauled to a paper recycler. I kind of recall loading bundles up in my car trunk** 10 or 12 times. Maybe there is a ditch somewhere still filled with National Geographics. I may have pulled a few issues but, if I did, those are long gone, too. I read an article a couple years back by a Boomer who was cleaning out his parents house and found a stash of NGs going back 30-40 years. He was shocked that libraries didn’t want them, schools didn’t want them, friends didn’t want them, and used bookstores didn’t want them. He said he was going to haul them to a paper recycler. Guy should have asked me. I could have saved him some time. ... I wonder if it would have been different if they'd've been old playboys.
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Post by drlj on Jun 29, 2023 9:04:40 GMT -5
Well, those I probably could have gotten rid of easier.
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Post by epaul on Jun 29, 2023 9:48:41 GMT -5
For those very special evenings, I wear a little pink teddy that fits snugly when I want to get all snuggly with my honey.
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Post by epaul on Jun 29, 2023 10:00:59 GMT -5
I got my National Geographic indirectly through my Uncle Scrooge comic books. All true. Carl Barks, the Disney artist that created Uncle Scrooge and penned the stories, relied on National Geographic articles to form the backdrop for many of the quests the Duck clan would find themselves in. With Uncle Scrooge, Donald, and Huey, Dewy, and Louie, I sailed the Sargasso Sea, plumbed the pyramids, and scaled the Himalayas in search of hidden treasures and forgotten lore.
(the Uncle Scrooge comics were of a very different sort than the Donald Duck ones)
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jun 29, 2023 17:39:47 GMT -5
Probably the most secure writing job left is the writing of bullshit corporate explanation paragraphs such as these from the article Dub linked:
At the time, David Miller, executive vice president of National Geographic Media, said the magazine was “realigning key departments to help deepen engagement with our readers while also nurturing existing business models and developing new lines of revenue.”
In an email to The Post on Wednesday, National Geographic spokesperson Chris Albert said staffing changes will not affect the company’s plans to continue publishing a monthly magazine “but rather give us more flexibility to tell different stories and meet our audiences where they are across our many platforms.”
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jun 29, 2023 17:42:21 GMT -5
Happy for you, Bill, but there is nothing typical in your experience. Very few of us still have a newspaper worth reading.
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Post by billhammond on Jun 29, 2023 17:47:28 GMT -5
Happy for you, Bill, but there is nothing typical in your experience. Very few of us still have a newspaper worth reading. Oh, believe me, I know.
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Post by Village Idiot on Jun 29, 2023 17:55:42 GMT -5
I remember when Chesapeake was still around National Geographic being bought out by 21st Century Fox in 2015 and heard the death knells then. It's too bad. I grew up on that magazine, and like DRLJ, will have to deal with shelves of them someday when my parents pass.
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Post by RickW on Jun 29, 2023 18:13:32 GMT -5
We have a wall of paper books. Our children have told us that the thing they look forward to the least about what will happen after we go is getting rid of those books. I still get fretboard journal in paper, and read every word. Always loved a good magazine.
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