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Post by Marshall on Jul 20, 2023 9:00:05 GMT -5
Not just kids really. Young adults too. My gripe is about some young engineers I'm working with on an "emergency" project they got themselves in over their head. I just got off a video meeting with them. They have a sophisticated 3D modeling program that analyzes this fancy chilled water piping system though a complex building structure. And it does a dynamics analysis and comes up with anchor forces throughout the system that need to be resisted. But when it comes to figuring how to resist those forces, they don't have a clue how to do a simple static analysis diagram. The kind of hand calculation you learn in Basic Engineering 101.
My complaint is we're educating a generation that relies on computer programs to solve their problems with no clue how that computer model relates to reality. There's a reality gap that scares me.
It even goes to the war in Ukraine. We send fancy sophisticated tanks and arms to Ukraine expecting our superior technology to dominate. Whereas the Russians have a long history of military genius at fighting a war of attrition. They thwarted Napoleon by not confronting his army directly and whittling away at the French until Napoleon's 400,000 man army finally retreated with only 10,000 soldiers left. They took the brunt of Hitler's army and wore them down.
My point is I'm worried about our young people's reliance on electronic sophistication. Sometimes they can't see the forest for the trees because they're looking at a screen instead of the leaves.
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Post by majorminor on Jul 20, 2023 9:49:39 GMT -5
My '86 F150 is a 4 speed manual stick. I leave it unlocked with the keys in it everywhere I go.
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Post by Marshall on Jul 20, 2023 9:55:27 GMT -5
I'll be going to Montana in a couple months. I could use an extra truck.
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Post by majorminor on Jul 20, 2023 10:20:26 GMT -5
Where you gonna be?
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Post by Marty on Jul 20, 2023 11:00:24 GMT -5
Pretty much right out of the Book of War. Draw your enemy forward into barren hostile ground making his supply lines longer and yours shorter, only confront him when needed.
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Post by Marty on Jul 20, 2023 11:08:47 GMT -5
My '86 F150 is a 4 speed manual stick. I leave it unlocked with the keys in it everywhere I go. Around here it would be perfectly safe. City criminals can't drive stick shifts. But they would steal your keys just to be mean. Don't get a parking ticket as someone will remove it from the windshield. Here I'm not sure if they are being mean or trying to do you a favor. You can honestly say "what ticket" and the Judge just might understand because people remove tickets all the time.
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Post by Marty on Jul 20, 2023 11:16:02 GMT -5
Tyler just stopped by and I had the idea to test him. I wrote " Get a note from your Doctor" in cursive. He didn't have a clue even though we all still sign our name in cursive.
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Post by amanajoe on Jul 20, 2023 11:54:19 GMT -5
I wish it was these days. I was dealing with the same thing in 1987 with a young environmental engineer.
I was the electrical controls guy and spent weeks as a consultant cleaning up the messes he'd made in plant design for 2 different locations in the Rockford area. He cost the company quite a bit of money and the end result was they fired me because I was too expensive.
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Post by Marshall on Jul 20, 2023 13:52:56 GMT -5
Ouch !
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Post by millring on Jul 22, 2023 3:55:16 GMT -5
Some of it might just be that the educated world has always been divided between "will this be on the test" students and problem solvers. And, sadly, the "will this be on the test" students score better in the system and therefore advance to the job market more easily, while the problem solvers move into something less institutionally bound (and enter the job market later when the industry needs to fix the problems the "will this be on the test" folks create).
The Post Office advances workers solely based on their ability to survive the lower levels. They possess no special skills for management.
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Post by howard lee on Jul 22, 2023 9:15:34 GMT -5
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jul 22, 2023 11:10:28 GMT -5
The Post Office advances workers solely based on their ability to survive the lower levels. They possess no special skills for management. Long ago defined as the "Peter principle."
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Post by david on Jul 22, 2023 11:27:30 GMT -5
Howard, thanks, That was not just funny, but in line with my view.
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Post by howard lee on Jul 22, 2023 11:32:33 GMT -5
Howard, thanks, That was not just funny, but in line with my view.
I am a big fan of David Sedaris and his worldview. His writing is always eye-opening and laughter-inducing. This interview clip really does underscore the morphing into something else of parenting since we were kids.
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Post by david on Jul 22, 2023 11:41:04 GMT -5
Howard, thanks, That was not just funny, but in line with my view. I am a big fan of David Sedaris and his worldview. His writing is always eye-opening and laughter-inducing. This interview clip really does underscore the morphing into something else of parenting since we were kids.
My wife and I listened to his audiobook, "Calypso." He had us both laughing. Great book. I need to find more.
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Post by howard lee on Jul 22, 2023 11:56:08 GMT -5
I am a big fan of David Sedaris and his worldview. His writing is always eye-opening and laughter-inducing. This interview clip really does underscore the morphing into something else of parenting since we were kids.
My wife and I listened to his audiobook, "Calypso." He had us both laughing. Great book. I need to find more.
Try "Barrel Fever" if you haven't already.
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Post by david on Jul 22, 2023 12:01:32 GMT -5
I enjoy the unexpected aspect of his thinking. He has a sense of humor that comes at me sideways.
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Post by drlj on Jul 22, 2023 12:13:10 GMT -5
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Post by John B on Jul 22, 2023 12:42:34 GMT -5
Some of it might just be that the educated world has always been divided between "will this be on the test" students and problem solvers. And, sadly, the "will this be on the test" students score better in the system and therefore advance to the job market more easily, while the problem solvers move into something less institutionally bound (and enter the job market later when the industry needs to fix the problems the "will this be on the test" folks create). The Post Office advances workers solely based on their ability to survive the lower levels. They possess no special skills for management. But then you would think those folks would remember what they had to do to survive, and figure out how to address some of those issues. Oh well. :/
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jul 22, 2023 13:10:46 GMT -5
There is a young couple in my family (I decline to be more specific) who are currently raising their 19 month old son with "gentle parenting." I am sitting back waiting for them to come to their senses.
If the child has something he shouldn't have they don't take it away. They trade for it. "Here (son), give me that and you can have this." They are educated people so I am trusting and hoping when they try to trade him a sponge for the cleaver he is holding they won't let negotiations drag on too long.
The are also trying to "reason" with him, a mistake that I have been guilty of. When one of my stepdaughters and her toddler lived with us for a while and I tried to reason with him she correctly reminded me that the toddler was still operating with a reptilian brain and reasoning wouldn't work for a few years.
When the current toddler is pitching a fit his Mom asks him "Now (son) do you need to regulate?" How effective do you suppose that is?
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