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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Apr 2, 2024 8:39:09 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Apr 2, 2024 8:48:32 GMT -5
The Republican Party solidifying its base.
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Post by drlj on Apr 2, 2024 8:50:40 GMT -5
It only applies to TN air. Once it moves to KY, it’s ChemTrails for everyone!
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Apr 2, 2024 9:25:40 GMT -5
If Tennessee can control any of the atmosphere, which is doubtful, it would only be the tiny percentage of the world's atmosphere directly above Tennessee.
My mind immediately imagined an F35 flying over Tennessee and leaving a contrail being pulled over by a Tennessee state police F35 piloted by a chubby trooper wearing mirrored sunglasses. "Your speed was okay, boy, but you can't be leaving no contrail over Tennessee."
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Post by Marshall on Apr 2, 2024 9:32:40 GMT -5
The whole thing is sad. To my mind, it's the fear that many people have that the world is changing around them by other people's actions that are beyond their control. When in fact, the world (at least as pertains to human daily life) is always changing. Our lives are very different than our parents whose lives were different than their parents. And our kids and grandkids inherit a world vastly different than the one we knew at their age. There's good and bad in all of it. 10 steps forward. 9 steps backward.
The only thing certain is it's unstoppable.
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Post by millring on Apr 2, 2024 17:28:41 GMT -5
The whole thing is sad. To my mind, it's the fear that many people have that the world is changing around them by other people's actions that are beyond their control. When in fact, the world (at least as pertains to human daily life) is always changing. Our lives are very different than our parents whose lives were different than their parents. And our kids and grandkids inherit a world vastly different than the one we knew at their age. There's good and bad in all of it. 10 steps forward. 9 steps backward. The only thing certain is it's unstoppable. Everyone seems to believe we have more control than we probably do.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 8:49:18 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 3, 2024 8:49:18 GMT -5
And yet, we're to believe without question that 0.04% of the atmosphere is unnaturally warming the planet.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 10:36:11 GMT -5
Post by Marshall on Apr 3, 2024 10:36:11 GMT -5
And yet, we're to believe without question that 0.04% of the atmosphere is unnaturally warming the planet. You're a one-trick pony, Peter. I understand where you're coming from on the front line, so to speak, of emission regulations. The earth over it's existence has had wildly different atmospheric makeup. For many Millenia it was an ice planet. Over other Millenia, CO2 was high and the planet was a tropical rain forest; even at the poles. CO2 and other so-called greenhouse gasses were the critical to those swings. Is the planet's atmosphere one constant thing? Surely not. Will human habitation be affected by future swings? Certainly yes. Will we, as insects crawling on the surface, be able to make a difference? Maybe. But our increasing population and increasing use of earth's natural resources flies in the face of any small tweaking we try to do. I suppose "it's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" applies. But at what cost to daily life and what, if any, benefit? Good whiskey solves more dilemmas than anything else I know.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 10:45:10 GMT -5
Post by brucemacneill on Apr 3, 2024 10:45:10 GMT -5
And yet, we're to believe without question that 0.04% of the atmosphere is unnaturally warming the planet. You're a on-trick pony, Peter. I understand where you're coming from on the front line, so to speak, of emission regulations. The earth over it's existence has had wildly different atmospheric makeup. For many Millenia it was an ice planet. Over other Millenia, CO2 was high and the planet was a tropical rain forest; even at the poles. CO2 and other so-called greenhouse gasses were the critical to those swings. Is the planet's atmosphere one constant thing? Surely not. Will human habitation be affected by future swings? Certainly yes. Will we, as insects crawling on the surface, be able to make a difference? Maybe. But our increasing population and increasing use of earth's natural resources flies in the face of any small tweaking we try to do. I suppose "it's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" applies. But at what cost to daily life and what, if any, benefit? Good whiskey solves more dilemmas than anything else I know. GO with Whisky and I'll agree. However, if you climb a tall mountain at some point you'll get to the tree line above which there are no trees. Why aren't there trees? Because there's no CO2 for them to breath. You'll have trouble breathing because there isn't much oxygen either because there's no plants to make it. CO2 is heavier than air so it can't rise up through it very far. No CO2 = no life. It's only a small volume of the atmosphere and without it you die. It's science.
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Post by epaul on Apr 3, 2024 11:25:29 GMT -5
And yet, we're to believe without question that 0.04% of the atmosphere is unnaturally warming the planet. Spot on! Same deal with that crazy sun stuff those scientists try get us to believe. Makes no damn sense. It's plain as day that the sun comes up at the east and then zips across the sky like a chariot of fire, see it every single darn day. Yet those silly scientists try sell us on the deal that it is the earth that spins around like a lopsided top while racing around the sun. Why don't we get dizzy then! Dumb scientists. It's apparent that those Democratic politicians bought off the entire scientific community just so that they could screw us over. Bruce called it.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 11:38:56 GMT -5
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Post by factorychef on Apr 3, 2024 11:38:56 GMT -5
Tree Lines. There is a point up a mountainside where trees stop growing because the air is too thin, not enough water and the temperatures are to cold for them to grow.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 11:39:41 GMT -5
Post by epaul on Apr 3, 2024 11:39:41 GMT -5
It is true that the different gasses that make up what we call "air" have different weights. If the various weights (most slightly so) were the only force at play, then the earth would have a stratified by weight atmosphere (and we wouldn't be here...gasp, choke). But, the earth, thankfully, doesn't have a stratified atmosphere. The sun's heat energizes all those different gas molecules and they bounce around each like ping pong balls in a bingo tumbler.
This isn't theory, it is measured fact, the gas molecules that make up our atmosphere are mixed and that heavy CO2 is found bouncing around like Tigger Too eight miles high in our atmosphere.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 11:47:42 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 3, 2024 11:47:42 GMT -5
It is true that the different gasses that make up what we call "air" have different weights. If the various weights (most slightly so) were the only force at play, then the earth would have a stratified by weight atmosphere (and we wouldn't be here...gasp, choke). But, the earth, thankfully, doesn't have a stratified atmosphere. The sun's heat energizes all those different gas molecules and they bounce around each like ping pong balls in a bingo tumbler. This isn't theory, it is measured fact, the gas molecules that make up our atmosphere are mixed and that heavy CO2 is found bouncing around like Tigger Too eight miles high in our atmosphere. Exactly. Just like pouring 4 ounces of boiling water into a bathtub of cold water will warm that bath right up.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 3, 2024 11:50:54 GMT -5
And yet, we're to believe without question that 0.04% of the atmosphere is unnaturally warming the planet. You're a one-trick pony, Peter. I understand where you're coming from on the front line, so to speak, of emission regulations. The earth over it's existence has had wildly different atmospheric makeup. For many Millenia it was an ice planet. Over other Millenia, CO2 was high and the planet was a tropical rain forest; even at the poles. CO2 and other so-called greenhouse gasses were the critical to those swings. Is the planet's atmosphere one constant thing? Surely not. Will human habitation be affected by future swings? Certainly yes. Will we, as insects crawling on the surface, be able to make a difference? Maybe. But our increasing population and increasing use of earth's natural resources flies in the face of any small tweaking we try to do. I suppose "it's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" applies. But at what cost to daily life and what, if any, benefit? Good whiskey solves more dilemmas than anything else I know. Well, this is a one trick board. It's just that my trick is different than everyone else's.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 12:06:53 GMT -5
Post by james on Apr 3, 2024 12:06:53 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Apr 3, 2024 12:20:19 GMT -5
There are economic forces (and political forces in their pocket) that have been disturbingly successful in portraying the "global warming" deal as a political power play by progressives that hate cars, themselves part of an even larger hoax perpetuated by a mysterious cabal that wants to rule a planet filled with bicycles.
But, just a smidgeon of applied sentience would reveal that this "global warming" deal DID NOT ARISE FROM POLITICIANS OR THE DESIRES OF THOSE MYSTERY FORCES SERVING THE DARK.
The observation that rising levels of released anthropomorphic greenhouse gasses, notably, but not exclusively, CO2, was driving a warming the earth's atmosphere; a warming that was occurring much more rapidly than other CO2-driven warmings in earth's early history, came FROM SCIENTISTS STUDYING THE EARTH'S ATOMOSHERE PAST AND PRESENT. NOT POLICIANS OR GREENIES.
Unnecessary repeat: The global warming deal came from science. But it has become ensnared in the political. And purposefully so. The Science can't be attacked, but the Politics can be.
And there is an incredible shit load of money being spent by powerful, invested, and incredibly wealthy interests working to keep it political... and thus Attackable! Discreditable!
Purposeful. And damn Clever. These powerful economic interests have successfully re-cast a clear matter of science into a murky, vulnerable one of politics, and have, successfully with too many, recast a matter of science into a scary political power grab by those evil progressive damn liberal politicals determined to destroy religion, gun rights, and the American Way!
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 12:22:06 GMT -5
Post by epaul on Apr 3, 2024 12:22:06 GMT -5
It is true that the different gasses that make up what we call "air" have different weights. If the various weights (most slightly so) were the only force at play, then the earth would have a stratified by weight atmosphere (and we wouldn't be here...gasp, choke). But, the earth, thankfully, doesn't have a stratified atmosphere. The sun's heat energizes all those different gas molecules and they bounce around each like ping pong balls in a bingo tumbler. This isn't theory, it is measured fact, the gas molecules that make up our atmosphere are mixed and that heavy CO2 is found bouncing around like Tigger Too eight miles high in our atmosphere. Exactly. Just like pouring 4 ounces of boiling water into a bathtub of cold water will warm that bath right up. Baby science. The sun is a chariot of fire. Makes sense to your eyes. Stupid scientists.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 12:53:04 GMT -5
Post by brucemacneill on Apr 3, 2024 12:53:04 GMT -5
Well is it's the 8 mile high CO2 you're worried about, first eliminate John Kerry's private plane.
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Post by epaul on Apr 3, 2024 13:38:32 GMT -5
Done. If I'm elected, he's riding a damn bicycle.
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Sheesh.
Apr 3, 2024 13:52:13 GMT -5
Post by epaul on Apr 3, 2024 13:52:13 GMT -5
And if I'm elected, those tricked-out little 1.5 three-cylinder engines with turbo, variable compression, mucked up camshafts and other techy crap that blow to hell two miles out of warranty (if they last that long), and which, in their actual short use, don't perform as well as the simple, rock solid 2.5 4 banger they replaced, will be outlawed.
(and Ford will have to replace every one of those darn things they put in their Bronco with a nice little V6 free of charge)
Green doesn't have to be dumb-ass stupid.
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