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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 0:18:20 GMT -5
See the brave toreador just look at him thrive Off the crowd as they roar.
For death brings a thrill To the everyday lives of the "non-com" observers Who gloat and chastise My mind can't believe we maintain This barbarous blood thirsty game.
In their picturesque dwellings the aristo-classes Spill blood that's not claret from cut-crystal glasses. Never once pausing to contemplate why For vanity's victories innocents die.
No better than bloodhounds Hot on the scent They butcher their prey When its' energy's spent My mind can't believe we maintain This barbarous blood thirsty game.
Please show me this "sportsman" You mention with pride With his dogs to defend him And his gun at his side If courage is the one thing Your kind do not lack Then why don't you hunt something That can fight you back?
I see only cowardice ridden by guilt And your hands won't wash clean of the blood they have spilt. What measure of madness makes you so ill That your passport to pleasure's a licence to kill?
So I won't waste my time trying to understand why For vanity's victories innocents die 'Cos you're all vicious bastards I'm sick of your crap So I won't bat an eyelid when it's you in the trap. I still can't believe we maintain This barbarous blood thirsty game
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Post by Marshall on Nov 19, 2007 20:12:53 GMT -5
I assume we're talking about bull fighting here. The line "For vanity's victories innocents die," seems a little off track. I don't think of a bull as innocent or guilty.
Or maybe it's about all kinds of hunting ? "No better than bloodhounds, Hot on the scent" would conjure up fox hunting.
Of course there could be religious undertones too.
I guess I was waiting for maybe a twist at the end that was going to reveal the subject to maybe be something other than what the listener was first lead to expect.
Also, the song uses pretty strong language. If you expect the listener to feel the same outrage, it's usually better to just paint a picture of injustice in it's rawest fashion. Then you don't have to tell people how you feel. They'll draw the appropriate coclusion by themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2007 15:47:47 GMT -5
it's about all types of hunting. what exactly do you think i should change? i'm not happy with the line;
'Cos you're all vicious bastards I'm sick of your crap
but i like the next line and can't think of anything else that rhymes.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 20, 2007 22:35:43 GMT -5
Well the "vicious bastards" line does seem like it needs to be re-written. You run the risk of turning off the listener by the in-you-face language.
It's hard for me to make suggestions. (Besides, i don't like to do that anyway. It's someone elses song and i don;'t know more than anyone else). Mostly because I would take a totally different tact. I think the scene in Bambi where Bambi's mom is killed by hunters is going to get more favorable audience reaction than calling hunters bastards. I favor presenting real situations and letting the listener draw his own conclusion instead of calling someone names for what they do (no matter how deserving of the name they may be).
Doesn't mean your approach is not valid. It's just not the way I think about songwriting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2007 22:54:17 GMT -5
i just like the line after, and can't think of something to preceed it i'm afraid. i shall mull it over. your point is a valid one. i guess being a kind of hippy that's prone to anger at cruelty to animals i just got carried away.......
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Post by Marshall on Nov 20, 2007 23:00:51 GMT -5
Anger is a valid emotion for a song. But it's much harder to communicate it to a listener withuot alienating some of them. (which is OK too, if you're willing to take that chance).
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