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Post by Gypsy Picker on Sept 28, 2006 10:22:44 GMT -5
If this has been brought up, I apologize -- I have not yet read every thread.
Seems there is broad support for banning the monkeys and headache, and also suggestions of banninf Lush, Doug, and Heidi. I'm wondering if the "Smite" and "Exalt" tools might be used to manage banishment - temporary or permanent. I really don't know how they work, but assume that each hit on those buttons is recorded somewhere, and your "karma" level is adjusted accordingly. Can we establish a formula for banishment based on bad karma such that getting so many bad points puts you in the penalty box for 3 days, more gets you a week, then a month?
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Post by Supertramp78 on Sept 28, 2006 10:25:52 GMT -5
not a bad idea but I think you can only vote once per person. Not sure though. That would mean if Bill really ticked us off, and we had mistakenly given him a thumbs up earlier, we wouldn't be able to ban him for a few days in order to try to catch up to his posting count.
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Post by John B on Sept 28, 2006 10:26:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure, but I think I can give myself Karma.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Sept 28, 2006 10:29:51 GMT -5
I'm amazed I have any karma at all considering how small my arrow thingy is.
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Post by timfarney on Sept 28, 2006 10:30:46 GMT -5
If this has been brought up, I apologize -- I have not yet read every thread. Seems there is broad support for banning the monkeys and headache, and also suggestions of banninf Lush, Doug, and Heidi. I'm wondering if the "Smite" and "Exalt" tools might be used to manage banishment - temporary or permanent. I really don't know how they work, but assume that each hit on those buttons is recorded somewhere, and your "karma" level is adjusted accordingly. Can we establish a formula for banishment based on bad karma such that getting so many bad points puts you in the penalty box for 3 days, more gets you a week, then a month? For the record, I'm not in favor of banning anyone until they have gone way beyond the boundaries of decent behavior, and proven that they can't control it here. But I won't personally be extending any invitations to monkeys, headaches or their cheerleaders... Tim
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Post by Gypsy Picker on Sept 28, 2006 10:31:25 GMT -5
Perhpas Cribbs can edumicate us on how these thingies work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2006 10:34:05 GMT -5
It seems you can`t give yourself a Karma vote and you can only dish out karma votes at a rate of 1 per hour.
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Post by Gypsy Picker on Sept 28, 2006 10:36:56 GMT -5
To be clear, I'm not calling for the banishment of anyone, just wondering if these karma tools may be a useful way to democratically deal with problem posters. As far as I'm concerned, TTT is still there and can be the true Isle of the Damned where all the vitriol can be spewed without consequence.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 28, 2006 10:40:15 GMT -5
I think it's undesireable conduct that needs to be controlled. I think this should be by invitation only for now. After some conduct guidelines are agreed upon and established. And a moderating person/committee is established. Then bad conduct (in the eyes of the comittee) will get you expelled. No appeal.
BAM
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2006 10:42:00 GMT -5
Sounds like a decent Idea. I`m all for it.
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Post by guitone on Sept 28, 2006 10:48:27 GMT -5
I would just like to be sure that is someone steps over the bounds of decent behavior, and that has to be established, that action can be taken. Also, condescending comments, such as Arch likes to do with is respectfully this or that can be seen through and that should also be called on. I fully expect that with the croud here now this will never be an issue...I bet we have some heated topics, nothing wrong with that, it is bad behavior we are talking about, and that can be subjective and needs to be defined. Now we may just want to set up some basic guidelines and allow the modes to take it from there, and use their best judgement.
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Post by j on Sept 28, 2006 12:09:38 GMT -5
we definitely need a mod or a council of mods. The karma thing might be an indicator of behavior so long as people take that seriously and don't just smite others for fun.
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Post by Gypsy Picker on Sept 28, 2006 12:13:42 GMT -5
If you had to give up 1 karma point to smite somebody, you'd think twice before swinging the sword.
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Post by j on Sept 28, 2006 12:15:37 GMT -5
Is that the case? That'd be KILLER!
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Post by Gypsy Picker on Sept 28, 2006 12:42:06 GMT -5
J, I really don't know how it works or how much flexibility the admin has. I just think it would be good if people can let others know when they're considered out of bounds and when a large number of members feel the same way, appropriate action can be taken. Perhaps we should continue this discussion in either the "suggestions" section or "rules and guidelines" section so as not to muck the place up too much.
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Post by j on Sept 28, 2006 12:57:33 GMT -5
another GREAT idea from Scott. Cribbs, could you please move this thread?
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Post by j on Sept 28, 2006 13:07:17 GMT -5
cribbs is the man
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Post by Cribbs on Sept 28, 2006 13:09:13 GMT -5
I like the karma points just to be a good indicator of the person. I think it's fun to exalt someone with a point when they have a good suggestion, pleasant thought, nice story, etc.
I think the level of toleration prior to punishment would be discussed among mods, based on their relativity to the guidelines of the forum. The problem with using the karma poitns for that is that you can't tell who is issuing the points. So, someone with an axe to grind could continually smite someone until they are punished.
I think rule #2 is to establish guidelines that everyone can more or less agree on.
Rule #1 is happening today -- a moderation panel.
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Post by j on Sept 28, 2006 13:22:12 GMT -5
agreed. Moderation panel (3-5 peeps?) all the way
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Post by guitone on Sept 28, 2006 13:28:10 GMT -5
agreed. Moderation panel (3-5 peeps?) all the way I think something like this can work...there has to be one senior, where the buck stops...but it can be a democracy to a point, sometimes someone has to be a hard ass (let's see if that posts). Whoever is moding has to have a lot of time or it has to be done in shifts....
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