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Post by mnhermit on Jul 28, 2008 16:28:21 GMT -5
Does anyone know of any use that can be made of 'piss elm'? My limited research indicates that mostly uses were found for saplings (handles) but I've got this monster that blew down and wondered if I could use the lumber for anything or if I should just cut it up and let it rot. Don't think it'd make very good guitars.
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Post by millring on Jul 28, 2008 16:34:52 GMT -5
If it's what we call "Chinese Elm" it is the weed of trees. Only the Silver Maple has less going for it and IT doesn't get invaded by Japanese Beetles every July.
Firewood. Find a potter who wood fires. (there are a bunch in MN.)
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Post by majorminor on Jul 28, 2008 19:46:07 GMT -5
Beg to differ - winter cut soft white(red and silver) maple makes for beautiful millwork and doors and can be very difficult to distinguish from hard white maple when comparing the sapwood(white portion of the tree). Made scads of doors out of soft maple. As for "piss elm" rumour has it it makes fine hockey sticks which seem to be in high demand in your part of the world hermit There's always firewood right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2008 5:56:22 GMT -5
I have yet to find or indentify the Elm trees in Elm Grove, Chinese or not. My largest curse here is the Sweet Gum. (or maybe thistes) Blessed, regardless, Dan
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Post by theevan on Jul 29, 2008 6:04:38 GMT -5
I wonder if y'all are talking about that pest the Chinese tallow?
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Post by theevan on Jul 29, 2008 6:07:47 GMT -5
Chinese tallow
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Post by mnhermit on Jul 29, 2008 8:18:56 GMT -5
To be honest I'm not real sure, very 'punky' wood, rough bark, tends to lean alot and grow odd branches. The leaves aren't quite like the one evan showed, more light green. (Never was very good at descriptive biology). So I'll cut up most of it in balks to make hockey sticks (thanks Steve) or wood for a BIG fire. I got lots of it on the property (along with 'popple), maybe with this one down the oaks and maples will fill in.
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Post by dradtke on Jul 29, 2008 10:28:16 GMT -5
Stand back from that fire, Dennis. I heard the name comes from the smell when it burns.
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Post by theevan on Jul 29, 2008 11:44:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 17:03:05 GMT -5
My father managed a fleet of dump trucks in the 50's when I-90 was being built east of Buffalo NY. He would go to the old country saw mill's is search of Piss Elm. I was ideal for sideboards for dump trucks because it was springy and forgiving. It could withstand blows from big rocks or bad loader operators.
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Post by RickW on Apr 28, 2018 17:11:13 GMT -5
I made a cedar chest out of elm, and part of my slide guitar I’m making now is elm. Don’t know if it’s the same kind. It’s beautiful grain, but it’s a bitch to work with. The grain runs back and forth, making tear out common when planing it. It’s also really hard, so resists sanding and cutting.
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Post by Russell Letson on Apr 28, 2018 17:25:53 GMT -5
I don't know whether piss elm is a true elm, but the common American elm we used to have hereabouts has a twisty, stringy, elastic grain that made it a real pain to split when it got in among the oak and birch firewood loads we got. Burned OK, but with a sour smell--kinda the opposite of the birch, which split easily and smelled nice.
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 28, 2018 17:40:56 GMT -5
I made a cedar chest out of elm, and part of my slide guitar I’m making now is elm. Don’t know if it’s the same kind. It’s beautiful grain, but it’s a bitch to work with. The grain runs back and forth, making tear out common when planing it. It’s also really hard, so resists sanding and cutting. Wouldn't that be an Elm Chest, Rick?
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Post by RickW on Apr 28, 2018 17:59:20 GMT -5
I made a cedar chest out of elm, and part of my slide guitar I’m making now is elm. Don’t know if it’s the same kind. It’s beautiful grain, but it’s a bitch to work with. The grain runs back and forth, making tear out common when planing it. It’s also really hard, so resists sanding and cutting. Wouldn't that be an Elm Chest, Rick? Nope. They are generally made with nice hardwood on the outside, then lined with aromatic cedar, which keeps the moths out.
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Post by RickW on Apr 28, 2018 17:59:54 GMT -5
I don't know whether piss elm is a true elm, but the common American elm we used to have hereabouts has a twisty, stringy, elastic grain that made it a real pain to split when it got in among the oak and birch firewood loads we got. Burned OK, but with a sour smell--kinda the opposite of the birch, which split easily and smelled nice. Sounds like what I’m using.
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Post by drlj on Apr 28, 2018 18:20:48 GMT -5
If I had piss elm boards, I would build an outhouse.
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Post by paleo on Apr 28, 2018 18:58:39 GMT -5
My father managed a fleet of dump trucks in the 50's when I-90 was being built east of Buffalo NY. He would go to the old country saw mill's is search of Piss Elm. I was ideal for sideboards for dump trucks because it was springy and forgiving. It could withstand blows from big rocks or bad loader operators. Growing up in Minnesota we had a lot of piss elm, one thing it was good for was diving boards, because it was so springy. Don't think we ever had one break.
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Post by Village Idiot on Apr 28, 2018 19:25:53 GMT -5
The real weed of trees is the mulberry.
I don't know what a piss elm is. Is it one of those that grows up by foundations of houses?
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Post by drlj on Apr 28, 2018 19:57:43 GMT -5
I have never heard anyone, before this thread, ever call a tree a piss anything. I have heard many call a mulberry tree a weed planted by Satan, but I have never heard of a piss elm.
Is it the same as a Tree of Heaven? Slimy under the bark and awful smelling when it is cut? A Tree of Heaven is an invasive weed tree that grows really quickly.
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Post by Village Idiot on Apr 28, 2018 21:11:41 GMT -5
Way back when I had the pleasure of cutting down a few weeping willows with a chain saw. What a nasty, wet and gooey mess.
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