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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2011 16:06:06 GMT -5
My heart goes out to you Bob. I have no wise advice to offer, but doubt there's some kind of quick solution. Sounds to me like a case of chronic depression.
Beware of anything purporting to be a miracle remedy. Military? Well, I'd argue with your fear that it's especially dangerous, compared to many jobs. Heck, the opposite argument can be made by insurance actuaries who will issue life insurance policies at a reduced rate for young members. But, with the history of medication, the military is not an option, anyway. If academics, baseball, nor employment can light him up, he'll need to find something that will. Best you can do is try to expose him to some options, whether it is some kind of work, recreation, or area of study.
Never had to make a kid hit the road. I guess a starting point would be to discuss some kind of rent, room/board arrangment, at first. You really don't want to facilitate long-term dependancy, so you owe it to him to come up with some kind of formalized arrangement when you think he can handle it. From there, you can always make the arrangment increasingly steep, until perhaps it motivates him to move on/up/out.
But, keep your mind/heart open to some kind of underlying problem. This really sounds like clinical depression, and I don't know if all that tough love stuff will really do much good.
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Post by RickW on Apr 20, 2011 16:38:55 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like a good spot to be in, Bob. I feel for you and your son. We all worry so much about how bad it can get, and it can get bad. Hope he finds a way to pull himself back up. Sounds like he had and has a lot on the ball.
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Post by gbacklin on Apr 20, 2011 18:06:46 GMT -5
I cannot relate to your exact situation, so please take this for what it may be worth, but there have been trying times with my children.
When I ran out of things to try, I went up to them hugged them, told them I love them more than anything in the world and told them the truth that I was worried about them, and did not make it sound like there was a lecture coming. Then let them know I was there for them, and will be for as long as I am alive. Sometimes a tear would be in my eye, and I wouldn't try to hide it.
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Post by Tamarack on Apr 20, 2011 19:06:15 GMT -5
Good thoughts and prayers headed your way T-Bob. Can't add any wisdom other than to encourage therapy for depression.
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Post by patrick on Apr 20, 2011 20:09:19 GMT -5
He's been to a couple of shrinks and a psychologists since he came home in November, supposedly just for Thanksgiving, but was the end of his Univ of Puget Sound days. He'd gotten to the point where he was failing multiple choice exams.He was living in house with 3 other drug addled students. He was spending $250/month on weed. When we went up to get all his stuff, the house looked to me like one step above a crack house, which I have seen firsthand unfortunately. He's on 140mg (fairly high dosage) of Vyvance for his ADHD, but we've suspended his therapist visits because he's not interacting with the guy despite being very compatible with him. Having battled addiction myself for over 15 years, and having a measure of success with it though the acceptance of help from AA and good friends, I can relate to all this negative behavior. I probably shouldn't expect instant success - I didn't have - very few people do. Tough love is the solution - I'm most likely trying to go with Tough Love Lite. I'm so sorry to hear this. It sounds exactly like depression and he's self-medicating with drugs. And nobody can do anything about it but him. You're in my thoughts.
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Post by paulschlimm on Apr 20, 2011 20:34:01 GMT -5
Are you getting any help taking care of you, Bob? Talking with anyone besides us nuts?
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Apr 20, 2011 21:26:52 GMT -5
Bob, I got no advice good or bad. But I'll think good thoughts for you, whatever that is worth.
Mike
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Post by billhammond on Apr 20, 2011 21:34:03 GMT -5
Bob, I got no advice good or bad. But I'll think good thoughts for you, whatever that is worth. Mike That is where I am, too, Bob. You are a great guy, and your pain is scattered among all these souls here.
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