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Post by millring on Sept 27, 2011 13:54:10 GMT -5
Leaving a four year old behind at the mall will sure break them of those tantrums, that I can assure you. Well, at least you'll never hear the screaming again. Still, one might ask, if you leave the four year old behind, how would you ever know if the tantrum stopped? Is this one of those "tree falls in the woods" things? |
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Post by omaha on Sept 27, 2011 13:55:29 GMT -5
Sort of like Major, my former Cocker Spaniel. I took him bird hunting once...actually, that was the only time I ever went bird hunting too...to see if he would be any use. He wasn't. Even though he was a pretty good fetcher, we couldn't get him to show the slightest interest in the birds. He wouldn't even fetch the dead ones if we threw them.
And the weather was bad and there was a lot of snow on the ground and the terrain was pretty rough and Major just wasn't keeping up. So after a while I just said "Screw it" and left him behind. Took about an hour and a half before we circled back and there he was, in the middle of this wooded area, alone and cold and crying.
He never let himself get more than 3 feet (that's almost one full meter, Rick, Kate and J) away from me after that.
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Post by omaha on Sept 27, 2011 13:56:17 GMT -5
Leaving a four year old behind at the mall will sure break them of those tantrums, that I can assure you. Well, at least you'll never hear the screaming again. Still, one might ask, if you leave the four year old behind, how would you ever know if the tantrum stopped? Is this one of those "tree falls in the woods" things? Once you leave the four year old behind, it doesn't matter if the tantrum stopped. |
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Post by millring on Sept 27, 2011 14:00:20 GMT -5
Breeze is four years old. I think I'd miss him eventually.
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 27, 2011 14:01:40 GMT -5
Breeze is four years old. I think I'd miss him eventually. Particularly after Dar got done kicking your ass. |
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Post by millring on Sept 27, 2011 14:03:34 GMT -5
ouch. She's small, but she floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee.
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Post by fatstrat on Sept 27, 2011 15:38:26 GMT -5
That's a good one!
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Post by Supertramp78 on Sept 27, 2011 17:57:33 GMT -5
Our rule with Cameron was "pitch a fit, the answer is no." there were no exceptions. We would pack up and leave the store. So not only did he not get it, we exited and left the temptation behind. But,if he told us why he wanted something and kept his cool, sometimes he might get it. But after a few tantrum induced drag out the store by your arm exits, he never did it again.
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Post by RickW on Sept 27, 2011 19:49:01 GMT -5
I've seen that before, and I found it funny, despite loving my children to death.
Middle one never had tantrums. Younger one tried it on for size a couple of times. I don't think it's that hard to deal with, actually, unless the kid has a real medical issue, like FAS or autism. They can just never, ever win a single thing from doing it, and in general, they should lose. Worked for us.
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Post by HarmonEyes on Sept 27, 2011 20:11:35 GMT -5
The first and only tantrum my daughter had was when she was two; she started screaming when I put her in the corner for disobeying me. I just looked at her calmly and said, "scream louder." She gulped, hiccupped, and never did it again.
I also told her that whining doesn't work in this house; if she wanted something, she would have to calmly and rationally explain to me why I should change my mind if I had said no. A few times what she had to say actually made sense and I did relent.
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Post by mccoyblues on Sept 27, 2011 20:17:38 GMT -5
I thought this ad was on point. The message is clear. And it isn't about the child. In the case of this truly clueless hipster with zero parental skills the message to him and all his peers should be to use a condom.
Guys that clueless shouldn't be reproducing.
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Post by John B on Sept 27, 2011 20:23:59 GMT -5
When I was very young I was at a store with my dad. He told me that if I wandered back to the toys section again he would leave me in the store. I went back to the toys, then realized I didn't know where my dad was. So I started crying and went to the help desk. They started paging him, and started looking a little panicked when there was no response. Eventually the front door of the store opened and there he was - he actually left me in the store.
Recently I was telling him about this story. He said, "yeah, I remember that it suddenly occurred to me that I would get in some serious trouble (with the authorities and your mother) if people realized I actually left."
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Post by prodigalone on Sept 27, 2011 20:33:31 GMT -5
I don't think this commercial is even remotely trying to comment on the "value of a child". It's real focus seems to be to provide a reality check for people who may forget that children are a responsibility. (IE not a casual decision to make if you are planning to have unprotected sex). I also I think that it's aimed at de-glamorizing kids a bit, which I think is a healthy notion these days. If you aren't ready to provide a loving and adequate framework for your child (including discipline) then you're probably not ready to be a parent
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Post by billhammond on Sept 27, 2011 20:46:03 GMT -5
I don't think this commercial is even remotely trying to comment on the "value of a child". It's real focus seems to be to provide a reality check for people who may forget that children are a responsibility. (IE not a casual decision to make if you are planning to have unprotected sex). I also I think that it's aimed at de-glamorizing kids a bit, which I think is a healthy notion these days. If you aren't ready to provide a loving and adequate framework for your child (including discipline) then you're probably not ready to be a parent That's my read, too, AJ. |
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Post by Russell Letson on Sept 27, 2011 21:16:13 GMT -5
"conception is a blessing, but not as your daughter may conceive. Friend, look to 't."
Hamlet, II.ii.
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Post by HarmonEyes on Sept 27, 2011 23:56:59 GMT -5
I don't think this commercial is even remotely trying to comment on the "value of a child". It's real focus seems to be to provide a reality check for people who may forget that children are a responsibility. (IE not a casual decision to make if you are planning to have unprotected sex). I also I think that it's aimed at de-glamorizing kids a bit, which I think is a healthy notion these days. If you aren't ready to provide a loving and adequate framework for your child (including discipline) then you're probably not ready to be a parent +1 |
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Post by iamjohnne on Sept 28, 2011 6:53:21 GMT -5
The message to me was on point.
I am the mother of five, I took no offense at the comercial.
Elena has a friend whose child is like the boy in the ad. The last time they were here to visit, the dad actually had to carry the boy out to the car screaming and kicking.
This after I said something to him about not touching coffee table items. Should I have said anything at all? Yeah, because Natalie didn't. My grandkids aren't allowed, someone elses kid isn't going to misbehave in my home either.
Yeah, use condoms, 'specially if you're not ready.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 7:15:41 GMT -5
I once heard that a very effective form of birth control is to spend a couple of hours with your kids just before bedtime.  |
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