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Post by jdd2 on Oct 29, 2012 7:01:24 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on Oct 29, 2012 7:26:31 GMT -5
"It is unclear why the boat set out to sea with Sandy bearing down. Sandy could be the largest storm ever to hit the United States, according to NOAA's website."
Duh !
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Post by omaha on Oct 29, 2012 7:59:27 GMT -5
"Well, if anything's gonna happen, its gonna happen out there..."
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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 29, 2012 8:00:41 GMT -5
The Bounty is a good sized ship and it is common to take larger ships out to sea during a storm because they're more likely to be damaged at the dock. The Navy pulled everything out of Norfolk a few days ago.
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Post by dickt on Oct 29, 2012 8:10:54 GMT -5
Saw one bit last night where a cruise ship was leaving NYC. There's really no direction they can go to avoid the storm so it's going to be a rough trip.
So if the Bounty doesn't sink will it sail itself down to the Bermuda Triangle and become a ghost ship?
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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 29, 2012 8:41:39 GMT -5
Saw one report that said The Bounty sank but NBC still says it's afloat. It was taking on water so it may sink.
One of the very few WWII stories my father told was of when his ship was at Okinawa just after the war and a typhoon came in. He was the Exec and the captain was ashore so he took the ship out to sea to ride out the typhoon. For once anyway, he was captain of a U.S. Navy vessel.
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Post by millring on Oct 29, 2012 9:04:51 GMT -5
Bounty is the quicker picker-upper.
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Post by drlj on Oct 29, 2012 9:53:42 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly, John. Wouldn't Bounty soak up all the water and make it easy to squeeze it out somewhere else? Tossing a few million rolls of Bounty into the ocean could be the solution we are all looking for. Except for the wind, of course. Bounty does not soak up wind.
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Post by omaha on Oct 29, 2012 9:56:50 GMT -5
If I were the Quartermaster on the Bounty, I'd buy Scotts brand just to be ornery.
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Post by drlj on Oct 29, 2012 10:01:50 GMT -5
Thank God I am always thinking because I think I have a solution for the wind. I have heard that in Washington DC there are 1000's and 1,000's of windbags. Why not take these windbags to the coast and catch the wind in them? We could seal the windbags and store them somewhere so that when we needed some wind, all we would have to do is open one.
Windbags and Bounty could be the solution.
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Post by Doug on Oct 29, 2012 10:02:06 GMT -5
If I were the Quartermaster on the Bounty, I'd buy Scotts brand just to be ornery. You are just a little ornery, I'd buy Depends. |
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Post by Lonnie on Oct 29, 2012 10:49:29 GMT -5
According to CNN, Bounty has sunk. 2 people missing.
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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 29, 2012 10:53:06 GMT -5
Recent coast guard report is that Bounty is awash but the masts are still above water. 2 crew still missing.
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Post by Chesapeake on Oct 29, 2012 10:53:59 GMT -5
It's possible they might have figured their best chance would be at sea, like those Navy ships. Unfortunately of course designs of that era are nowhere near as storm-resistant as modern ones. But if they'd gotten out far enough they might have avoided the worst of Sandy. Sounds like the real problem was they lost power. They were reported taking on water, but if they'd had power they might have been able to keep it pumped out. Most of those tall ships are crewed by very capable seamen/women. I'd be surprised if this turned out to be a simple case of incompetence.
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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 29, 2012 11:03:14 GMT -5
It's possible they might have figured their best chance would be at sea, like those Navy ships. Unfortunately of course designs of that era are nowhere near as storm-resistant as modern ones. But if they'd gotten out far enough they might have avoided the worst of Sandy. Sounds like the real problem was they lost power. They were reported taking on water, but if they'd had power they might have been able to keep it pumped out. Most of those tall ships are crewed by very capable seamen/women. I'd be surprised if this turned out to be a simple case of incompetence. She's 180 foot so I'd agree with your reasoning. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 11:39:58 GMT -5
It's possible they might have figured their best chance would be at sea, like those Navy ships. Unfortunately of course designs of that era are nowhere near as storm-resistant as modern ones. But if they'd gotten out far enough they might have avoided the worst of Sandy. Sounds like the real problem was they lost power. They were reported taking on water, but if they'd had power they might have been able to keep it pumped out. Most of those tall ships are crewed by very capable seamen/women. I'd be surprised if this turned out to be a simple case of incompetence. She's 180 foot so I'd agree with your reasoning. She was 180' long, but only had a 12' freeboard in 18' seas. That thing had to be pitching like a rodeo bull. With no power to keep into the wind, or to run the bilge pumps, I doubt they had much of a chance. |
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Post by omaha on Oct 29, 2012 11:44:37 GMT -5
I can't imagine that the sort of men who chose a job like that would give her up lightly.
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Post by Chesapeake on Oct 29, 2012 11:45:58 GMT -5
www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=472442116134436&set=a.127663303945654.13368.117378731640778&type=1&theater Last Facebook posting from Bounty.
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Post by Chesapeake on Oct 29, 2012 11:48:05 GMT -5
She's 180 foot so I'd agree with your reasoning. She was 180' long, but only had a 12' freeboard in 18' seas. That thing had to be pitching like a rodeo bull. With no power to keep into the wind, or to run the bilge pumps, I doubt they had much of a chance. Lacking power to keep her pointing into the wind, they might have tried deploying a sea anchor. But I'm sure they used all the storm tactics they could before jumping off. |
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Post by mccoyblues on Oct 29, 2012 11:59:35 GMT -5
It was nothing more than a reproduction used as a movie prop anyway. No significant loss. Except of course for the two missing crew men.
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