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Post by t-bob on Nov 19, 2012 4:01:55 GMT -5
So, we've lost a lot of good people either temporarily or permanently.
Checking in here used to be one of my favorite activities of the day. Not anymore...
We seem to have lost a certain "je ne sais quio" (sp?). Let's get it back. We're a bunch of talented, sensitive, and caring individuals.
What can I do to help?
Should I leave? Am I the offending asshole? (I know I'm not...) Has our empire simply run its course? Will things change now that the elections are over? I'm clueless...
Again, what can I do? I'm serious!
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Post by millring on Nov 19, 2012 6:34:29 GMT -5
we get more of what we respond to and less of what we don't.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 19, 2012 7:21:16 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Nov 19, 2012 7:37:03 GMT -5
you can't put toothpaste back in the tube.
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Post by drlj on Nov 19, 2012 8:16:36 GMT -5
Election years take a toll. This one seems to have been a real toll taker, too.
Sometimes people just need to take a break and to get away from forums for a while.
Sometimes words in print come across harsher than spoken words.
I usually avoid political threads like the plague because I don't want to offend or be offended and also because I come here for enjoyment. If I want to argue, I can go over to my idiot neighbor's house!
I think about the many, many people I have posted with on various forums and how many of them just dropped off the radar,and I am inclined to believe that, for most people, posting on forums has a limited life span.
Just some thoughts.
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Post by mccoyblues on Nov 19, 2012 8:43:44 GMT -5
It's simple. We all love a healthy debate regardless of the subject, these discussions are why most of us frequent forums. But more often than not they move too away from the subject and descend into insults and pettiness and mean spirited language aimed directly at other forumites. When you say something intentionally hurtful or turn the debate into a personal attack this is what happens.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Nov 19, 2012 9:03:00 GMT -5
The earliest posts I can find on the SoundHole are 28-Sep-2006.
If that is accurate, we have now gone
2244 Days Without Changing Anyone's Mind About Anything
That we keep trying so hard is a tribute to the human pursuit of futility.
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Post by millring on Nov 19, 2012 9:05:55 GMT -5
2244 Days Without Changing Anyone's Mind About Anything Well, here I am arguing again. But this couldn't be further from the truth. I couldn't begin to list how much I've learned from the "arguing" here. |
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 19, 2012 9:11:48 GMT -5
Gotta go with Bauman on this one. My views and opinions on certain topics have changed because of articulate arguments from Jeff and others, my understanding of issues has improved. There are voices we can do without in here (fatstrat comes to mind), but Jeff's isn't one of them.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Nov 19, 2012 9:18:41 GMT -5
Okay, maybe I zaggerated.
But certainly, in many threads we keep pounding an idea at someone else long after we should reasonably have realized no one is changing their mind and we are treading on tender emotional ground.
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Post by ducktrapper on Nov 19, 2012 9:32:20 GMT -5
Could be worse. Check out the AG site, where this all began, if you wanna see thinning. You either let folks talk about whatever they want to talk about or you don't. Guitar talk gets old and talk, talk, talk offends tender sensibilities, Although, I get a little tired of being called names by people who have never met me, I like to maintain contact with a handful of folks who I have met and/or understand that I really don't eat puppies for breakfast. Lunch, however, is another matter.
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Post by millring on Nov 19, 2012 9:34:15 GMT -5
It wasn't the arguing. It was implying Jeff was a racist and then doubling down on that by saying that it was easy to see where one might draw that conclusion.
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Post by Doug on Nov 19, 2012 9:34:49 GMT -5
Damn Duck don't you Canadians know anything, you eat kittens for lunch.
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Post by godotwaits on Nov 19, 2012 9:38:28 GMT -5
Goes back a lot further than 2006 actually. ( I know you know that) Just saying. I remember when there were some war crazy talk about the invasion of Irag went on. I got pretty sincerely disillusioned back then and took a powder for awhile.
But give me credit for just cussing at the screen and turning it off. At 600 some odd posts I've managed a modest amount of restraint.
There has been a tendency to knaw on a bone until it's reduced to splinters.
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Post by ducktrapper on Nov 19, 2012 9:41:55 GMT -5
Damn Duck don't you Canadians know anything, you eat kittens for lunch. Well, ya know Doug, I've heard that big cats can be dangerous but that a little pussy never hurt anyone. |
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Post by Dub on Nov 19, 2012 10:26:28 GMT -5
It wasn't the arguing. It was implying Jeff was a racist and then doubling down on that by saying that it was easy to see where one might draw that conclusion. See my post in the "Jeff" thread. It was initially hard for me to enter into exchanges on boards like this one. I always figured "Why would I waste time online talking with people I don't know, and may not even be who they claim to be, when there are well loved family members and friends with whom I seldom communicate?" I started at The Mudcat Café site because of my interest in traditional music and only really posted about music and related things. Millring invited me to a earlier incarnation of this board and I was quickly assimilated even meeting many of you early on. This is now the only board I really contribute to though I find I read it less and less now. I've always found that one way to keep friends over a long period of time is to avoid going out of one's way to piss them off. Pissing people off is not often an endearing thing to do. I've also noticed that very few people are enthusiastic about being taught an unsolicited lesson, even when that lesson is needed. I have many close friends with whom I disagree on important issues. And we don't spend awkward time trying to avoid those issues we just enjoy sharing our common interests. I'm guessing that some here on this board don't actually feel a close friendship with the others and derive some satisfaction from putting others in their place. I feel sorry for them but I have no desire to become an audience for their vitriol. I think I understand why people leave. |
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Post by Russell Letson on Nov 19, 2012 10:51:29 GMT -5
It's well to go with Hamlet:
Let my disclaiming from a purposed evil
Free me so far in your most generous thoughts,
That I have shot mine arrow o'er the house,
And hurt my brother.
Of course, the proper response to such an apology ought not to be like Laertes'.
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Post by sekhmet on Nov 19, 2012 10:59:11 GMT -5
There are times when I think the entire world of human discourse can benefit from a reference to Hamlet.
People leave here when they have been insulted beyond endurance. I have taken a number of slings and arrows myself. I suppose having spent 64 years on the planet has taught me resiliency. I try to remember the source and accept that opposing won't end them.
Rather like water off a duck's back.
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Post by t-bob on Nov 19, 2012 11:21:52 GMT -5
we get more of what we respond to and less of what we don't. +1.  |
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Post by Kramster on Nov 19, 2012 20:27:11 GMT -5
I am still just a new guy with no current opinion
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