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Post by lar on Jan 8, 2020 10:11:48 GMT -5
I saw some journalism yesterday that really appalled me. The big news is that the people who brought us the Impossible Burger are coming out with a pork product. To kick off their announcement they put on a big do at a Japanese restaurant at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.
I read two reviews of the product. The first was by a guy who said that he'd never eaten pork because he's Jewish. So other than the fact that he thought it tasted fine he had no basis for comparison with actual pork. The second reviewer said he hadn't eaten pork in 20 years because he's a vegetarian. He didn't have a basis for comparison either. He did say he talked to a friend about it and they agreed that the texture wasn't quite right.
Having read 2 reviews I'm still as in the dark about whether the product is truly a good substitute for pork or not.
My question is why did the two publications send out those particular reporters? They weren't equipped to actually review the product given that the most important aspect of the review would have been the comparison to real pork.
They should have sent Bill. I'm pretty sure that he's eaten pork far more recently than 20 years ago. He'd have done a bang up job on the story.
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Post by epaul on Jan 8, 2020 12:33:11 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Lar. The review on the porkless pork sandwich I read was written by a pig. He said it was the most wonderful sandwich ever, but was a pig the most credible reviewer they could come up with? I think there is an inherent bias issue involved, no matter how scrupulous and rigorously trained the pig.
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Post by RickW on Jan 8, 2020 12:38:01 GMT -5
My feeling on this kind of product is, if you’re not going to eat meat, why spindle, fold and mutilate vegetable products so that they in some way resemble meat? Like the Beyond Meat burger, which everyone loves, but to say it is processed is an insult to cold cuts everywhere. It’s more like it was bred in a lab.
Buy a South Asian cookbook. Those folks know how to eat vegetarian, and it’s damned tasty.
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Post by lar on Jan 8, 2020 13:52:31 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Lar. The review on the porkless pork sandwich I read was written by a pig. He said it was the most wonderful sandwich ever, but was a pig the most credible reviewer they could come up with? I think there is an inherent bias issue involved, no matter how scrupulous and rigorously trained the pig. It's a bit like those Chick-fil-A commercials with the chickens urging us all to eat beef. When consuming advertising it's kind of important to understand the spokesperson's area of self-interest.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Jan 8, 2020 14:27:47 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Lar. The review on the porkless pork sandwich I read was written by a pig. He said it was the most wonderful sandwich ever, but was a pig the most credible reviewer they could come up with? I think there is an inherent bias issue involved, no matter how scrupulous and rigorously trained the pig. Bad business move, sending the pig. The article will just cannibalize the magazine sales...
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Post by millring on Jan 8, 2020 14:34:08 GMT -5
I've long been in the market for pork that tastes more like broccoli.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jan 8, 2020 14:43:54 GMT -5
I went on a vegetarian diet for a while. Ate nothing but vegetarians. Finally abandoned it. There's not much meat on those folks.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Jan 8, 2020 15:01:05 GMT -5
This is sooooo apropos of nothing, but:
Years go, when I worked at a busy video store while in college (remember those? Mom n pop video rental places? And colleges?) we’d often have someone cross the busy, 4-lane road, and go for a coffee run inside the large grocery store on the opposite corner, when there was a lull in the action. We had one person working there—I’ll call her “joan” (not her real name) who was a bit of a slacker. You could always count on her jumping the gun, and volunteering for the coffee run before anyone else still scrambling to catch up from the rush could get a word in.
So we developed this game with the espresso counter staff. As soon as “joan” left the store, we’d call over to let them know she was coming (about a 10-minute walk each way) and they’d run out front, and erase whatever the day’s special was (eg. “raspberry mocha") and replace it with "pork latte," which of course, was always my standing order. The staff would go ahead and make my mocha, and label it "pork latte." Joan (again, not her real name) would eventually come bck to work with the drinks, after gallivanting about for 30 minutes, and proceed to talk about how disgusting my drink was.
"Try it..." I’d offer, holding out the bogus bacon drink—which she never did.
Pretty soon, all the regular customers were in on it. Our boss thought it was absolutely hilarious—and he told the grocery store owner, who liked the gag enough to give the espresso counter help his personal blessing to keep it up, so long as they remembered to charge the sign back after "joan" left.
This was still going on when I graduated and we moved to Spokane. Somewhere, there is a slacker out there who still thinks Pork Lattes are a thing.
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Post by drlj on Jan 8, 2020 16:05:31 GMT -5
I watched a demonstration of how Impossible Burgers were made. I might have tried them before seeing that. Not now, though.
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 8, 2020 16:10:02 GMT -5
Add the Impossible Burger and fake pork to diet soda and non-alcoholic beer on the list of pointless shit that should never have been created to begin with.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Jan 8, 2020 16:32:57 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 8, 2020 16:40:31 GMT -5
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Post by billhammond on Jan 8, 2020 17:24:37 GMT -5
Did NOT see that one coming, Peter!
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Post by Village Idiot on Jan 8, 2020 18:29:07 GMT -5
They should have sent Bill. I'm pretty sure that he's eaten pork far more recently than 20 years ago. He'd have done a bang up job on the story. I agree, assuming he would have also noted the cleanliness of the restroom and the quality of the coffee at Mandalay Bay.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jan 8, 2020 19:00:13 GMT -5
I have eaten and peed at Mandalay Bay. The coffee is quite tasty, and the attentiveness of the servers refilling your cup is more than adequate. The bathrooms are spotless, or they were when I visited. I would have no qualms about taking a leak at Mandalay Bay.
I have not had a impossible burger or the new fake pork product at Mandalay Bay or anywhere else. But I am willing to try them, and give them a fair shake. I see no downside to eating more plants. And while I like beef and pork, especially low and slow barbecued beef and pork, I realize that doing so is more resource intensive for the planet, and just maybe, there is a better way.
Really, the way some of you are squealing about this, (Peter) one would think you are a stuck pig.
Mike
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Post by Village Idiot on Jan 8, 2020 19:06:48 GMT -5
I have eaten and peed at Mandalay Bay. The coffee is quite tasty, and the attentiveness of the servers refilling your cup is more than adequate. The bathrooms are spotless, or they were when I visited. I would have no qualms about taking a leak at Mandalay Bay. Thank you, Mike. I have stayed at the Flamingo (which also has good coffee and spotless restroom) with a view of the Mandalay, but have never set foot in the latter. Thanks for this information. This is vital information, and I appreciate you posting it!
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 8, 2020 19:37:14 GMT -5
Really, the way some of you are squealing about this, (Peter) one would think you are a stuck pig. Oh no, Mike. I really don't give a shit about any of it. But if it's something important to your self image, go for it.
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Post by drlj on Jan 8, 2020 20:06:47 GMT -5
I have eaten and peed at Mandalay Bay. The coffee is quite tasty, and the attentiveness of the servers refilling your cup is more than adequate. The bathrooms are spotless, or they were when I visited. I would have no qualms about taking a leak at Mandalay Bay. Thank you, Mike. I have stayed at the Flamingo (which also has good coffee and spotless restroom) with a view of the Mandalay, but have never set foot in the latter. Thanks for this information. This is vital information, and I appreciate you posting it! I have eaten, peed, slept, and aimlessly meandered at both the Flamingo and Mandalay Bay. Coffee was good. Restrooms were clean. Beds were comfortable and meandering was pointless.
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Post by t-bob on Jan 8, 2020 20:11:00 GMT -5
Some of those reviews hilarious and ridiculous also
Put this reviews in the floor with the toilet. This is the way to have a therapy with “under broom in a rectum”
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jan 8, 2020 21:48:12 GMT -5
Thank you, Mike. I have stayed at the Flamingo (which also has good coffee and spotless restroom) with a view of the Mandalay, but have never set foot in the latter. Thanks for this information. This is vital information, and I appreciate you posting it! I have eaten, peed, slept, and aimlessly meandered at both the Flamingo and Mandalay Bay. Coffee was good. Restrooms were clean. Beds were comfortable and meandering was pointless. Vegas is a weird place, isn’t it? Mike
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