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Post by james on Apr 29, 2020 15:42:46 GMT -5
I F**king love Harry Styles!
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Post by Marshall on Apr 29, 2020 15:49:49 GMT -5
You know the old saying "never meet your heroes"? That goes both ways. (Stephen Wright used to tell a joke about his collection of rare photographs, including one of "Norman Rockwell beating up a child".) We gather an impression of public figures, and we flatter ourselves that those impressions reflect reality. I arduously avoid that. I believe that, at best, our impressions are a fun house mirror view of the person in question. They tend toward being a reflection of ourselves, more than of them. MODERATORS ! ! ! ! Please move this to the TOP FIVE thread. (And reprimand Jeff for his lazy placement. )
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Post by millring on Apr 29, 2020 15:51:08 GMT -5
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Post by james on Apr 29, 2020 15:58:27 GMT -5
Stick with Tucker Carlson's white power hour then?
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Post by Marshall on Apr 29, 2020 16:05:08 GMT -5
The new narrative is "....as many as died in the Vietnam War". I read it here and this morning on the local news they said the same thing. Homogenized messaging. We're all on the same page now. '12-'13, '14-'15, and '17-'18 flu season more died than Vietnam too. It just doesn't have as good a publicist. OK. I had to surf backwards to find my previous reference. Here it is If you watch the graph change over time you see that by April, COVID is the largest cause of death in the US per week. Starts very slow. Ramps up fast.
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 29, 2020 16:08:29 GMT -5
The new narrative is "....as many as died in the Vietnam War". I read it here and this morning on the local news they said the same thing. Homogenized messaging. We're all on the same page now. '12-'13, '14-'15, and '17-'18 flu season more died than Vietnam too. It just doesn't have as good a publicist. OK. I had to surf backwards to find my previous reference. Here it is If you watch the graph change over time you see that by April, COVID is the largest cause of death in the US per week. Starts very slow. Ramps up fast. Yes but we know now that they're reporting "Presumed" cases as Covid-19 without testing.
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Post by millring on Apr 29, 2020 16:30:20 GMT -5
The new narrative is "....as many as died in the Vietnam War". I read it here and this morning on the local news they said the same thing. Homogenized messaging. We're all on the same page now. '12-'13, '14-'15, and '17-'18 flu season more died than Vietnam too. It just doesn't have as good a publicist. OK. I had to surf backwards to find my previous reference. Here it is If you watch the graph change over time you see that by April, COVID is the largest cause of death in the US per week. Starts very slow. Ramps up fast. That's not comparing it to flu in the way the CDC numbers do. The claim was: More have now died of COVID than from Vietnam. Using the CDC numbers, the flu killed more than Vietnam TOO. In many year previous, but in recent seasons 12-13, 14-15, and 7-18. Epaul says that the CDC admits to lying about the flu numbers to scare us into vaccinating. But they promise that this time they're not lying just to get us to stay locked down and destroy the economy. They lied once to manipulate us, but they'd never do that again, no sir.
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Post by millring on Apr 29, 2020 16:35:22 GMT -5
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Post by fauxmaha on Apr 29, 2020 16:39:30 GMT -5
Well, everyone knows that.
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 29, 2020 17:33:06 GMT -5
"The stock market moved higher on Wednesday, despite a sharp drop in U.S. economic activity, after Gilead Sciences reported positive data on its remdesivir drug as a potential treatment for coronavirus." Forbes.
Maybe there is a balm in Gilead.
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Post by billhammond on Apr 29, 2020 17:45:58 GMT -5
"The stock market moved higher on Wednesday, despite a sharp drop in U.S. economic activity, after Gilead Sciences reported positive data on its remdesivir drug as a potential treatment for coronavirus." Forbes. Maybe there is a balm in Gilead. I posted this earlier: Associated Press A biotech company says its experimental drug has proved effective against the new coronavirus in a major U.S. government study that put it to a strict test. Gilead Sciences’s remdesivir would be the first treatment to pass such a test against the virus, which has killed more than 218,000 people since it emerged late last year. Having a treatment could have a profound effect on the global pandemic, especially because health officials say any vaccine is likely a year or more away. The study, run by the National Institutes of Health, tested remdesivir versus usual care in about 800 hospitalized coronavirus patients around the world. The main result is how long it takes patients to recover. Gilead gave no details on results Wednesday, but said an announcement is expected soon. NIH officials did not immediately reply to a request for comment. Remdesivir is given through an IV and is designed to interfere with an enzyme that reproduces viral genetic material. In animal tests against SARS and MERS, diseases caused by similar coronaviruses, the drug helped prevent infection and reduced the severity of symptoms when given early enough in the course of illness. But it is not yet approved anywhere in the world for any use.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 29, 2020 18:40:16 GMT -5
That's not comparing it to flu in the way the CDC numbers do. The claim was: More have now died of COVID than from Vietnam. Using the CDC numbers, the flu killed more than Vietnam TOO. In many year previous, but in recent seasons 12-13, 14-15, and 7-18. Epaul says that the CDC admits to lying about the flu numbers to scare us into vaccinating. But they promise that this time they're not lying just to get us to stay locked down and destroy the economy. They lied once to manipulate us, but they'd never do that again, no sir. Picky, picky, picky. What this shows is that it's the leading cause of death in the US. Right here. Right now. So you think we should ignore that? You like to fixate on media hyperbole. And, sure they are always lunging for the most sensational thing to make statistics real to the public they serve, (and sell soap to). And, gee whiz, sometimes it's not telling the whole story. But it doesn't automatically negate the gravity of the issue they are trying to shed light on.
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Post by james on Apr 29, 2020 18:51:49 GMT -5
PBS News mentioned today that the Javits Center ICU surge capacity had dealt with 1100 patients and was in standby mode now.
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Post by epaul on Apr 29, 2020 18:55:22 GMT -5
... Epaul says that the CDC admits to lying about the flu numbers to scare us into vaccinating. I said that? I don't recall saying that. Am I talking in my naps?
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 29, 2020 19:04:11 GMT -5
That's not comparing it to flu in the way the CDC numbers do. The claim was: More have now died of COVID than from Vietnam. Using the CDC numbers, the flu killed more than Vietnam TOO. In many year previous, but in recent seasons 12-13, 14-15, and 7-18. Epaul says that the CDC admits to lying about the flu numbers to scare us into vaccinating. But they promise that this time they're not lying just to get us to stay locked down and destroy the economy. They lied once to manipulate us, but they'd never do that again, no sir. Picky, picky, picky. What this shows is that it's the leading cause of death in the US. Right here. Right now. So you think we should ignore that? You like to fixate on media hyperbole. And, sure they are always lunging for the most sensational thing to make statistics real to the public they serve, (and sell soap to). And, gee whiz, sometimes it's not telling the whole story. But it doesn't automatically negate the gravity of the issue they are trying to shed light on. Really? Here's all the things that kill more people annually: Heart disease: 647,457 Cancer: 599,108 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383 Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404 Diabetes: 83,564 From the CDC itself. Assuming the current COVID numbers are real (there are serious questions about how those numbers are assigned in the field), COVID has a long way to go to get to the top. Numbers can be a dangerous thing if manipulated. You should be more careful with them.
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Post by james on Apr 29, 2020 19:19:14 GMT -5
Marshall said leading cause "right now".
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 29, 2020 19:30:51 GMT -5
Marshall said leading cause "right now". We're a third of the way through the year which would mean we can probably expect about 215,000 or so deaths from heart disease. Unless "right now" means the last 2 hours, which might be true but completely unverifiable.
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Post by james on Apr 29, 2020 19:36:39 GMT -5
Marshall linked (above and previously)to a comparative animated graphic of data for every day for the last few weeks. I compared the data displayed with other reputable sources.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 29, 2020 19:59:30 GMT -5
Marshall linked (above and previously)to a comparative animated graphic of data for every day for the last few weeks. I compared the data displayed with other reputable sources. I actually checked the math.
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Post by Village Idiot on Apr 29, 2020 20:00:24 GMT -5
Mass-marketed teen crooner heartthrob du jour. It’s clearly Styles’ turn at the turnstiles. Is he, like, the dreamiest?
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