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Post by Cornflake on Apr 4, 2020 10:15:00 GMT -5
"Argueing about whether the economy should have been shut down is moot at this point." As it always has been. The government didn't shut down the economy. The virus did.
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Post by Chesapeake on Apr 4, 2020 10:49:20 GMT -5
I've given it some thought, and I really can't think of a better term to describe the kind of people I'm talking about. None of whom live on this forum. But they do exist, in great numbers. Seriously, Don? I've made my living with f'ing science. And I know what HC + O2 => CO2 + H2O actually means. It means f'ing climate change is a g'damn political stunt. So what do you have? I guess what I have is a climate-change denier. Any argument with that?
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Post by millring on Apr 4, 2020 10:56:01 GMT -5
Seriously, Don? I've made my living with f'ing science. And I know what HC + O2 => CO2 + H2O actually means. It means f'ing climate change is a g'damn political stunt. So what do you have? I guess what I have is a climate-change denier. Any argument with that? As Cornflake might say, "that's a very binary view", and it's the reason why you're getting pushback here. To most of America, there is an entire spectrum of views that the Washington press flattens (as you seem to be doing) to "Climate-change deniers". It is only that Washington press mindset that says there are only two view points: Climate catastrophe vs Climate change deniers.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 4, 2020 11:12:41 GMT -5
I guess what I have is a climate-change denier. Any argument with that? As Cornflake might say, "that's a very binary view", and it's the reason why you're getting pushback here. To most of America, there is an entire spectrum of views that the Washington press flattens (as you seem to be doing) to "Climate-change deniers". It is only that Washington press mindset that says there are only two view points: Climate catastrophe vs Climate change deniers.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 4, 2020 11:19:43 GMT -5
Seriously, Don? I've made my living with f'ing science. And I know what HC + O2 => CO2 + H2O actually means. It means f'ing climate change is a g'damn political stunt. So what do you have? I guess what I have is a climate-change denier. Any argument with that? I'd characterize it as someone who knows more than you do about climate change. It's less arrogant.
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Post by epaul on Apr 4, 2020 11:29:30 GMT -5
As James once said after a discussion with Doug on gun control, "I don't think we're going to have a meeting of the minds here".
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Post by epaul on Apr 4, 2020 11:39:08 GMT -5
I miss Doug. In opinion he was as stubborn and contrary as a Missouri mule, but in person he never resorted to insult or invective regardless of what may have been directed his way. He didn't agree with commies, but he sure would sit down and pick a tune with them. Billy Budd with a double barrel.
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 4, 2020 12:21:00 GMT -5
Why the very qualified stay-at-home order in my state on 3/31 mostly just ratified the status quo. From The Arizona Republic:
"New data offer a glimpse of how traffic has thinned in Arizona amid the coronavirus pandemic and increasingly tough public health precautions to stop the disease.
Google has released calculations based on its users showing a sharp decline in activity around many of the places people typically spend time every day.
Activity around shopping centers, restaurants, cafes and movie theaters declined 40% in Arizona by March 29 when compared to the period from January 3 through February 6.
Activity declined 33% around workplaces, 41% around transit centers like bus and rail stops, and 17% at grocery stores and pharmacies when compared to the same period.
While Gov. Doug Ducey's stay-at-home order did not take effect until the evening of March 31, daily life had already changed for many Arizonans as businesses shuttered or encouraged employees to work from home. Schools closed, too, and spring training was canceled."
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Post by Marshall on Apr 4, 2020 13:21:28 GMT -5
So, Google is tracking us by our phones.
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Post by millring on Apr 4, 2020 13:26:10 GMT -5
So, Google is tracking us by our phones.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 4, 2020 13:29:46 GMT -5
I'll mail you my cell ohne and you can send it back through Steve Morris in Montana.
We'll show em !
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 4, 2020 13:38:51 GMT -5
I can barely see my area on that map, kind of blends with the ocean but I suspect that's because Cell phones and GPS don't work around here much.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Apr 4, 2020 14:17:28 GMT -5
I leave my cell at home whenever I go out to do hood rat shit after hours, anyways. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, big tech.
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Post by epaul on Apr 4, 2020 14:51:11 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on Apr 4, 2020 15:27:39 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Apr 4, 2020 15:28:00 GMT -5
This is dizzying. Three months ago it was racist to point out that the virus originated in China. Then it was okay if you were the right person or the right organization. Then it was racist again. Now it's okay again.
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Post by billhammond on Apr 4, 2020 15:43:34 GMT -5
This is dizzying. Three months ago it was racist to point out that the virus originated in China. Then it was okay if you were the right person or the right organization. Then it was racist again. Now it's okay again. THIS is what you're worried about? Sorry, love you, John, but I guess I personally don't care what it's called, or by whom.
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Post by james on Apr 4, 2020 15:44:24 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Apr 4, 2020 15:59:54 GMT -5
This is dizzying. Three months ago it was racist to point out that the virus originated in China. Then it was okay if you were the right person or the right organization. Then it was racist again. Now it's okay again. THIS is what you're worried about? Sorry, love you, John, but I guess I personally don't care what it's called, or by whom. Of course I'm worried about it. It's at the very core of the problem we are facing with this thing. There are so many things the wrong people like me don't get to ask or say. You're safe.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 4, 2020 17:09:17 GMT -5
Oh, you ask it quite regularly. Often, even. You may not be satisfied with the response. But such is life sometimes. Your voice is heard. Beyond that I don't know what to tell you.
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