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Post by dradtke on Apr 8, 2020 20:13:01 GMT -5
Bye, bye, acting navy secretary: (no need to reprint his "stupid" speech) I believe his comment was mis-directed.
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Post by dradtke on Apr 8, 2020 20:15:53 GMT -5
17 people did not die on April 4th as stated by IHME's data. 3 people have died to date (April 6). Been tryin' on some new outfits Paul? Did you get your panties in a twist? Are you kidding? Do you know how hard it is to get Paul to wear pants? Let alone underwear?
As a joke, Todd once tied Paul's pantslegs in a knot. A week later, Paul hadn't noticed.
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Post by epaul on Apr 8, 2020 22:37:09 GMT -5
IT DID NOT TAKE THAT LONG
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COVID 19
Apr 9, 2020 12:09:38 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by majorminor on Apr 9, 2020 12:09:38 GMT -5
Seems like they are revising the total death forecast downward every day now.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 9, 2020 12:22:23 GMT -5
Seems like they are revising the total death forecast downward every day now. Wish I could say that's surprising.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 9, 2020 12:31:22 GMT -5
Well the Social distancing and lock-down are certainly reducing potential contamination exposure. I expect the estimates were based on a rather normal contagion situation. Whether they would have panned out like estimated if we kept going about business as usual, is unverifiable.
I don't know about where everybody else lives, but around here people are taking it SERIOUSLY. Suburbia is solid with the program. Streets are empty. People are locked down. I did visit a closed store yesterday, where I'm helping the Owners (friends) with drawing some plans for their business that is moving to another location. The only people in the store were the 4 family members who all work there. They were packing boxes. They all were wearing masks. They gave me one.
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 9, 2020 12:50:32 GMT -5
"Seems like they are revising the total death forecast downward every day now."
The last revision of the IMHE projecions bumped Arizona back up a little but it's still lower than it was. New Mexico's projections have gotten worse recently. My aunt who lives there says it's because they're finally testing people in the Indian pueblos where social distancing hadn't really caught on until very recently.
But overall, yes, things don't look as bad overall as they did ten days ago. From what I've read, that's because there's more and more real data concerning the course of infections from this virus to work with.
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Post by epaul on Apr 9, 2020 13:43:51 GMT -5
If the argument is to be, "was social distancing useful or needed?", introducing the changes/improvements made by a computer model as more data is fed into it is not useful or pertinent to the argument (though the addition could qualify as spurious). The only useful way to even begin such a discussion is to have a case study of two statistically relevant (large enough) groups that followed distinct approaches to this viral incursion (eg. social distancing vs not social distancing)
Claims to the contrary, that won't be possible in this country. All the states in this country are following near identical social distancing practices (verbiage and politics not-withstanding).
But, I expect virologists will be paying particular attention to the viral run in the Scandinavian countries. Norway and Denmark (combined population=11.4 M) have followed strict (and very typical) social distancing policies. Sweden (population=10.2 M) has not. Schools, bars, and restaurants are open. Congregations encouraged. Life, by deliberate policy, is proceeding normally. (and those few who chose to social distance by, for instance, keeping their kids home from school or not showing up for work, suffer consequences.) If the respective Scandinavian policies hold, there will be some useful information to be gleaned by virus end.
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Post by epaul on Apr 9, 2020 14:19:26 GMT -5
- I will note that no one has posited such an argument on this page. The only pending argument on this page is how long I went without pants before noticing. AND IT WAS NOT A WHOLE WEEK.
(it was a partial week, and I don' have to say how long, only that it wasn't a full seven days, WHICH IT WASN'T.)
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Post by millring on Apr 9, 2020 14:24:32 GMT -5
But, I expect virologists will be paying particular attention to the viral run in the Scandinavian countries. Norway and Denmark (combined population=11.4 M) have followed strict (and very typical) social distancing policies. Sweden (population=10.2 M) has not. Schools, bars, and restaurants are open. Congregations encouraged. Life, by deliberate policy, is proceeding normally. (and those few who chose to social distance by, for instance, keeping their kids home from school or not showing up for work, suffer consequences.) If the respective Scandinavian policies hold, there will be some useful information to be gleaned by virus end. If that is the case, I could not be more thankful.
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Post by majorminor on Apr 9, 2020 14:45:15 GMT -5
Norway and Denmark (combined population=11.4 M) have followed strict (and very typical) social distancing policies. Sweden (population=10.2 M) has not. Schools, bars, and restaurants are open. Congregations encouraged. Life, by deliberate policy, is proceeding normally. (and those few who chose to social distance by, for instance, keeping their kids home from school or not showing up for work, suffer consequences.) If the respective Scandinavian policies hold, there will be some useful information to be gleaned by virus end. Dem f*****g Swedes yah?
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Post by epaul on Apr 9, 2020 17:37:17 GMT -5
Well, there are twice as many of them as there are Norwegians, and it didn't happen by accident.
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Post by millring on Apr 9, 2020 17:59:00 GMT -5
The prey often reproduces in numbers sufficient to sustain the predator.
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Post by james on Apr 9, 2020 18:09:49 GMT -5
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 9, 2020 20:32:43 GMT -5
Meanwhile, back at the ranch. From my Google News feed.
"The briefings aren’t working: Trump’s approval rating takes a dip In times of national crisis, the American people typically come together behind their president. But not this one. Donald Trump isn't benefiting ... POLITICO Yesterday"
"Fox News Poll: Trump job approval hits new high as voters rally during crisis Approval of President Trump's job performance inches up to a record high in the latest Fox News Poll, as voters rally to both the White House and Congress in ... Fox News" 3 hours ago
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 9, 2020 20:40:18 GMT -5
Meanwhile, back at the ranch. From my Google News feed. "The briefings aren’t working: Trump’s approval rating takes a dip In times of national crisis, the American people typically come together behind their president. But not this one. Donald Trump isn't benefiting ... POLITICO Yesterday" "Fox News Poll: Trump job approval hits new high as voters rally during crisis Approval of President Trump's job performance inches up to a record high in the latest Fox News Poll, as voters rally to both the White House and Congress in ... Fox News" 3 hours ago But the press/media remain the default arbiters of truth on this board. Astonishing.
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 9, 2020 21:38:27 GMT -5
I'd like tom brady quarterbacking this, not a hairdo cheerleader who wants to be the popular one (and who has trouble with facts/reality).
trump should step aside.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 9, 2020 21:46:33 GMT -5
I'd like tom brady quarterbacking this, not a hairdo cheerleader who wants to be the popular one (and who has trouble with facts/reality). trump should step aside. Sorry you're going to be sadly disappointed in November. Wait a minute. No I'm not.
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 10, 2020 7:32:41 GMT -5
Who was it that signed up for the LA times? Mike?
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Post by t-bob on Apr 10, 2020 8:31:44 GMT -5
The answer to the question everyone is asking—‘When will this be over?’—is simple and obvious, yet terribly hard to accept. The answer is never.
Global catastrophes change the world, and this pandemic is very much akin to a major war... The legacy of this pandemic will live with us for years, perhaps decades to come. It will change the way we move, build, learn, and connect. There is simply no way that our lives will resume as if this had never happened.”
We are just at the beginning of this journey. For most people, our minds have not come to terms with the fact that the world has already changed.
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