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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 16, 2020 5:59:58 GMT -5
Peter, I'm just glad Trump is President and these fools aren't.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 16, 2020 7:09:09 GMT -5
Well, here we go. Kent State all over again. You can always say you heard it here first.... Protests
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 16, 2020 7:15:04 GMT -5
The left's heads should start exploding when they realize they're supporting the 10th amendment, state's rights, like they did back before the civil war. This could be the death of big government which would be another win for Trump.
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 16, 2020 7:34:58 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 16, 2020 7:45:18 GMT -5
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Post by majorminor on Apr 16, 2020 7:54:17 GMT -5
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 16, 2020 8:15:38 GMT -5
I wonder how many of the folks who would like to restart (or not to have shut down) the economy are also pro-life?
They'd be on the one hand saying life is sacred and worth anything to preserve it, and on the other that lives lost to the virus are not as important as maintaining the economy.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 16, 2020 8:16:49 GMT -5
I wonder how many of the folks who would like to restart (or not to have shut down) the economy are also pro-life? They'd be on the one hand saying life is sacred and worth anything to preserve it, and on the other that lives lost to the virus are not as important as maintaining the economy. That's just stupid.
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 16, 2020 8:18:52 GMT -5
I wonder how many of the folks who would like to restart (or not to have shut down) the economy are also pro-life? They'd be on the one hand saying life is sacred and worth anything to preserve it, and on the other that lives lost to the virus are not as important as maintaining the economy. edit: I think "Pro life" is an abortion dog whistle and nor relevant to the virus discussion.
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Post by TKennedy on Apr 16, 2020 8:36:31 GMT -5
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 16, 2020 8:47:30 GMT -5
Yeah, the sanctity of unborn life, to be preserved at all costs, but then when there's money involved (the economy) it's okay if people die.
Prolifers should be horrified by policy/policymakers that put the economy/money over human life.
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Post by millring on Apr 16, 2020 8:49:00 GMT -5
That is no more of a reality than the death and hardship of the economic collapse. It is laudable to demand that nobody should live if everyone cannot live. Somehow, though, I don't think that kind of wishing -- as laudable as it may be, and as morally superior as it makes us feel when we get to frame it as "we don't want people to die and THEY just want their money", I don't think that kind of wising is based in anything remotely connected to reality.
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Post by millring on Apr 16, 2020 8:51:21 GMT -5
Yeah, the sanctity of unborn life, to be preserved at all costs Who ever suggested that it be preserved at all cost? Who ever suggested an economic shutdown to preserve unborn life? You've got the economics of that 160 o backwards. It's the ones who kill babies for a living who don't want their economy shutdown.
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Post by millring on Apr 16, 2020 8:53:14 GMT -5
Prolifers should be horrified by policy/policymakers that put the economy/money over human life. It isn't an economy vs human life issue. It is a human life preserved one way vs human life preserved another way. It's a debate about which saves the most human life. By the WHO's own numbers, poverty STILL kills more every year than any single disease EVER.
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Post by majorminor on Apr 16, 2020 8:59:00 GMT -5
Yeah, the sanctity of unborn life, to be preserved at all costs, but then when there's money involved (the economy) it's okay if people die. Prolifers should be horrified by policy/policymakers that put the economy/money over human life. Look I'm not "pro life" but it's a sketchy analogy framed to insult and inflame. A fetus is helpless and let's face it, is most often terminated as a matter of convenience. Your "all costs" in the pro life debate pale in comparison to the "all costs" of shutting a country down for months on end. An adult can make their own risk/reward benefit analysis regarding Covid whereas a fetus can't and on and on. Basically this is a bullshit bumper sticker analogy IMO and is about as helpful as your comment in another thread about Trump rallies full of older Christian rednecks and Covid being a good match.
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 16, 2020 9:08:46 GMT -5
Well, over on reddit, it's getting 39k upvotes. I guess here and there are a different demographic.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 16, 2020 9:15:33 GMT -5
Well, over on reddit, it's getting 39k upvotes. I guess here and there are a different demographic. That must be where all the stupid people with nothing better to do go. Definitely a different demographic.
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Post by theevan on Apr 16, 2020 9:29:40 GMT -5
I should be amazed, but sadly, I'm not. The ease at which Americans have forfeited their rights for the sake of an ephemeral goal ("ephemeral" is being kind) of flattening a China virus curve is disheartening.
Arrests for failing to obey a governor's unconstitutional orders...hmmm. Time to open the reeducation camps for those unwilling to comply.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 16, 2020 9:32:50 GMT -5
I should be amazed, but sadly, I'm not. The ease at which Americans have forfeited their rights for the sake of an ephemeral goal ("ephemeral" is being kind) of flattening a China virus curve is disheartening. Arrests for failing to obey a governor's unconstitutional orders...hmmm. Time to open the reeducation camps for those unwilling to comply. Welcome to the machine.....
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Post by millring on Apr 16, 2020 9:43:51 GMT -5
It's worse than that. The claim of moral superiority evident in those who simply cannot conceive that collapsing the economy may be a greater risk to health and life than the virus -- won't even entertain the thought of a point of view counter to their own while they live in the comfort of their retirement villas with their six and seven figure bank accounts and retirement checks and comfortable lives as long as everyone else accepts making no money at all, loses their businesses, loses their homes, loses their jobs. not. even. the. HINT. of sympathy -- in fact cheering with GLEE at every drop in the stock market because TRUMP will look bad -- that to save all those in the lap of comfort but at health risk, we are being asked to lose our businesses, our homes, our jobs, fall headlong into an economic collapse from which we might not recover in our lifetimes.
want to work for a living? How could you BE so selfish?! You bastard!
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