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Post by aquaduct on Apr 20, 2020 15:00:30 GMT -5
Live free or die dude in Ohio. Sure. One guy is enough. Nice.
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Post by fauxmaha on Apr 20, 2020 15:11:16 GMT -5
Live free or die dude in Ohio. HIPPA says didn't happen.
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Post by TKennedy on Apr 20, 2020 15:23:43 GMT -5
Hmmm. I may have had a case of premature sharing. I usually check out stuff like this but I will admit I didn’t here. Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by TKennedy on Apr 20, 2020 15:57:24 GMT -5
Well here is his obit but I am not sure if it is the same McDaniel that did the tweet. More research needed. www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/john-mcdaniel-obituary?pid=195989035Update: After doing what I know how to do I can't verify that the John Mc Daniel who died in Marion OH made that post although it appears his Facebook and Twitter amounts were deleted because of all the cruel posts that followed his death. It has certainly gone viral on the web. Pretty good chance it is valid but I can’t be sure.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Apr 20, 2020 17:20:44 GMT -5
Like Tiny Tim, at least he died doing what he loved.
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 20, 2020 17:26:58 GMT -5
Rich Lowry, editor of National Review, recently wrote a scathing response to some of the critics of social distancing. Since he makes a point I've made here repeatedly, I thought his comments were insightful and worth noting.
"Bennett and Leibsohn neglect the key fact that the economy began to shut down before there were widespread official orders. People voted with their feet because they were fearful of a highly transmissible, virulent disease. And they acted rationally. If everything had gone on as normal, the outbreak would have been worse, and we would have eventually had shutdowns anyway."
I think people acted rationally for a somewhat different reason. About the second week of March, a lot of us became seriously concerned about the virus. A lot of us concluded that the benefits of meeting a friend for lunch at a restaurant or taking a trip were outweighed by the risk of contracting a potentially lethal disease, coupled with the fact that we might unwittingly be endangering those we socialized with. None of us were deciding to shut down the economy. We were just deciding that we weren't interested in buying goods or services for the time being if doing so could be dangerous to ourselves or others. I found my decision in that regard very easy and I've never second-guessed it. It was the aggregate of many millions of similar decisions that tanked the economy, not any governor's order. People can get angry at market forces if they want but it won't do much good.
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Post by millring on Apr 20, 2020 17:32:36 GMT -5
nobody that I know is angry at the market forces.
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Post by james on Apr 20, 2020 17:47:03 GMT -5
And what are *your* thought about all this, James? All this? Could you be more specific.
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Post by theevan on Apr 20, 2020 17:48:33 GMT -5
Rich Lowry, editor of National Review, recently wrote a scathing response to some of the critics of social distancing. Since he makes a point I've made here repeatedly, I thought his comments were insightful and worth noting. "Bennett and Leibsohn neglect the key fact that the economy began to shut down before there were widespread official orders. People voted with their feet because they were fearful of a highly transmissible, virulent disease. And they acted rationally. If everything had gone on as normal, the outbreak would have been worse, and we would have eventually had shutdowns anyway." I think people acted rationally for a somewhat different reason. About the second week of March, a lot of us became seriously concerned about the virus. A lot of us concluded that the benefits of meeting a friend for lunch at a restaurant or taking a trip were outweighed by the risk of contracting a potentially lethal disease, coupled with the fact that we might unwittingly be endangering those we socialized with. None of us were deciding to shut down the economy. We were just deciding that we weren't interested in buying goods or services for the time being if doing so could be dangerous to ourselves or others. I found my decision in that regard very easy and I've never second-guessed it. It was the aggregate of many millions of similar decisions that tanked the economy, not any governor's order. People can get angry at market forces if they want but it won't do much good. That makes sense. And at this time, it seems people are again voting with their feet, leading the coming easing before it's made official.
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 20, 2020 18:34:20 GMT -5
Evan, I have a problem with that for at least two reasons.
One is that we have to maintain civil authority. Individuals aren't free to ignore valid orders issued during a public health emergency.
The second problem is that such behavior might well hurt all of us. Suppose a bunch of people decide to reopen their massage parlors, barber shops and bars no matter what the White House guidelines say, no matter what the experts on infectious diseases say and no matter what the governor has ordered. According to the experts, that would probably lead to a spike in infections which would delay a general loosening of restrictions. That would delay a recovery from the economic mess for everyone.
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 20, 2020 19:02:35 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 20, 2020 19:55:12 GMT -5
Evan, I have a problem with that for at least two reasons. One is that we have to maintain civil authority. Individuals aren't free to ignore valid orders issued during a public health emergency. The second problem is that such behavior might well hurt all of us. Suppose a bunch of people decide to reopen their massage parlors, barber shops and bars no matter what the White House guidelines say, no matter what the experts on infectious diseases say and no matter what the governor has ordered. According to the experts, that would probably lead to a spike in infections which would delay a general loosening of restrictions. That would delay a recovery from the economic mess for everyone. That's truly disturbing.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 20, 2020 20:32:44 GMT -5
Evan, I have a problem with that for at least two reasons. One is that we have to maintain civil authority. Individuals aren't free to ignore valid orders issued during a public health emergency. I walked another golf course today. Just walking. My wife came home from the horse barn and told me someone she knows up there lives in a golf course community. And they saw someone on the course playing golf. (all courses are closed by degree of the governor.) And the local police showed up and issued them a $750 ticket.
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Post by majorminor on Apr 20, 2020 20:40:37 GMT -5
Evan, I have a problem with that for at least two reasons. One is that we have to maintain civil authority. Individuals aren't free to ignore valid orders issued during a public health emergency. I walked another golf course today. Just walking. My wife came home from the horse barn and told me someone she knows up there lives in a golf course community. And they saw someone on the course playing golf. (all courses are closed by degree of the governor.) And the local police showed up and issued them a $750 ticket. Like I said: “Don’t get tased!”
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Post by epaul on Apr 20, 2020 20:52:56 GMT -5
And what are *your* thought about all this, James? All this? Could you be more specific. Well, to begin with, women. Do you like them skinny or plump? And then, on to beer. Do you prefer Bud Lite or Miller Lite (and please don't say Busch Lite, that's just Bud in blue can). And lastly (for now), all agree that Burrows will be the first QB picked Thursday. But which QB do you think will go second?
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Post by Dub on Apr 20, 2020 20:55:45 GMT -5
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Apr 20, 2020 20:57:53 GMT -5
Since the main criticism of the USA’s testing (aside from a start sleepier than Joe Biden on a bender) is our per capita numbers, I’ll offer up this recent chart that’s already out of date (we passed 4 mil tests today). We are now not just #1 for total tests, but #2 for per capita. Give us another 2 weeks, and we should be in the lead across the board:
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Post by TKennedy on Apr 20, 2020 20:59:14 GMT -5
Maybe that’s where never sitting in the front pews originated with Lutherans.
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Post by epaul on Apr 20, 2020 21:04:24 GMT -5
I'm tested every day. Either by the Lord or by Gus. Usually Gus. Today he decided he'd try make fudge and left the pan sitting on the burner for over an hour. It boiled over and then burnt to a crisp while he was blowing up tanks on his computer.
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 20, 2020 21:25:16 GMT -5
Most Episcopalians also avoid the front pews but not all. There's a small cadre of people who think they own them. Woe unto you if you take the seat they think is theirs.
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