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Post by epaul on Apr 20, 2020 9:42:12 GMT -5
The factors that have damaged the economy were well in place before New York turned hot.
Do you think Texas is waiting for NY to clear up before "opening up"? Iowa? California? Ohio? I know that ND is watching ND, not NYC.
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Post by millring on Apr 20, 2020 9:43:32 GMT -5
The sports analogies were great. I love sports. I love analogies. Put 'em together and I'm totally enthralled. And I don't enthrall easily. It takes a lot to enthrall me. Oh, you can get my attention with a mere metaphor, but no way would a metaphor take me all the way to enthrall. Similes with their "like" and "as" are way too obvious. Too elementary for my cultivated, sophisticated tastes. I've used them, sure. But I'm not holding myself up as exemplary. I'm just observing.
So, to recap:
Analogies --FANTASTIC, rapturous, enthralling. Sports --ditto. Metaphor --pretty good Simile --kinda weak
You had me at "...running back"
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Post by millring on Apr 20, 2020 9:49:27 GMT -5
Most of the factors that have damaged the economy were well in place before New York turned hot. Do you think Texas is waiting for NY to clear up before "opening up"? Iowa? California? Ohio? 160 o backwards. That is turning the point of the article completely on its head. Disagree with the article, fine. Discount the article because if its source -- that's SOP these days (we only trust the sources that confirm what we already want to believe). The things that damaged the economy were done in anticipation of a cataclysm the likes of which has only been realized in certain obvious places like New York. Warsaw couldn't duplicate New York even IF compared on a per-capita basis. I am seeing people on facebook showing selfies of them out on wilderness trails alone or with the person they already live with....and they are wearing face masks.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 20, 2020 9:50:38 GMT -5
Most of the factors that have damaged the economy were well in place before New York turned hot. Do you think Texas is waiting for NY to clear up before "opening up"? Iowa? California? Ohio? How about Michigan and Virginia to name just 2 of the states that have governors that are assholes and don't want to open their states because they're fucking power mad lunatics that can't see the forest through the trees?
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Post by epaul on Apr 20, 2020 9:56:16 GMT -5
Most of the factors that have damaged the economy were well in place before New York turned hot. Do you think Texas is waiting for NY to clear up before "opening up"? Iowa? California? Ohio? 160 o backwards. That is turning the point of the article completely on its head. Disagree with the article, fine. Discount the article because if its source -- that's SOP these days (we only trust the sources that confirm what we already want to believe). The things that damaged the economy were done in anticipation of a cataclysm the likes of which has only been realized in certain obvious places like New York. Warsaw couldn't duplicate New York even IF compared on a per-capita basis. I am seeing people on facebook showing selfies of them out on wilderness trails alone or with the person they already live with....and they are wearing face masks. You tell me what you think the point of the article is. I am sensing a remarkable expansion, one that involves breaking the barriers of time.
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Post by millring on Apr 20, 2020 10:09:26 GMT -5
I am sensing a remarkable expansion, one that involves breaking the barriers of time. I've always wondered if there is such thing as a "time boom"? I remember when I was young my dad took me to some kind of airplane show and I remember experiencing a jet going overhead and creating a sonic boom. I know that most people never get to experience that anymore -- there are restrictions against creating sonic booms. If I understand it correctly, it's in part because the boom can also shatter windows and cause other damage. But I remember in science class as an elementary school student, I was told that the cracking of a bull whip was also a tiny sonic boom -- the tip of the whip cracking as it exceeded the speed of sound. And now I'm wondering if there would be a time boom created by breaking the barriers of time? And would it matter if we were going back in time as opposed to forward in time? And though the speed of sound creates a sonic boom, maybe exceeding the speed of time would create something other than a boom? Would it break any clocks in the vicinity? Would it involve sciency sounding words like "vortex" (I particularly like the word "vortex". To my ear it sounds particularly sciency. Especially if introduced like this: "So, vortex....". I learned from the scientists on PBS and NPR that just that simple two-letter word "So" said at the beginning of a sentence seems to add, like, a ton of weight to what follows. So, vortex. See? I forgot what we were talking about.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 20, 2020 11:06:50 GMT -5
I walked a golf course yesterday. Nine holes anyway. No clubs. Just walking. Wanted to see if there's be any restrictions. I drove around to 4 local courses. 3 are Park District owned. They had signs up saying 'Closed by order of the Governor." The privately owned course had no sign. The clubhouse was dark and locked. All the carts are chained together. But no sign. And I walked down the fairway of 9 holes. Lots of people walking the cart paths or riding bikes on the paths on all courses. So there's almost as many people on the grounds as if people were playing golf. See I have my own pull cart in the trunk of my car. And I think I'm sneaking out some time this week. What the heck. Just me by my lonesome. How's that different than people walking in the park. Or john running in the woods. Sue showed me an article in today's Herald paper. Apparently, Wi, & IN allow golf courses to be open. IL has ordered them closed. The courses are protesting. So something may happen. Either way, I expect to go out sometime this week and swing away. I need some activity where I get to aggressively smack a ball around. I'm going crazy just hiking around. I need to swing at something other than my wife.
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Post by epaul on Apr 20, 2020 11:25:41 GMT -5
Look, Pete may be right, the governor of his state may be a complete fool and an asshole. Don't know the fellow, but that may be the case.
John may be right, maybe the response to this virus has been based too greatly on unjustified fears. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened in the history of the world if that were to prove to be the case.
But, IF the PJ article is to be judged by own merits and NOT whether it falls within or without the general universe of what you would like to be true, it is absurd and is based on fraudulent numbers.
The point of the article is stated very clearly in the headline: "Here’s How Much Downstate New York Is Skewing the United States’ Coronavirus Numbers!"
How does the author support this point? He SUBTRACTS the virus numbers of this country's most populous city from our total virus numbers and then compares these jiggered with numbers to the non-jiggered with numbers reported by other countries, numbers that conveniently but dishonestly INCLUDE the case loads of those countries most populous cities. That is not only absurd. That is fraudulent.
Just because an absurd article with fraudulent numbers happens to fall within the general universe of what you generally hold to be true does not absolve it from its absurdity and its use of fraudulent jiggered with numbers.
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Post by fauxmaha on Apr 20, 2020 11:27:36 GMT -5
I can attest to what Marshall is saying. I'm getting really bored swinging at his wife, too.
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Post by millring on Apr 20, 2020 11:35:13 GMT -5
John may be right, maybe the response to this virus has been based too greatly on unjustified fears. That's not my point, exactly. The fears may be justified. Certainly if you are at risk, you are going to be scared unless you are David Clayton Thomas or Laura Nyro and you're not scared of dyin' and you don't really care. But the policy is of a one-size-fits-all lockdown based almost completely on: 1. A model that originally said that 200 million people would die worldwide that was never going to be the case, and 2. New York Most of America couldn't duplicate the contagion of New York even if you assigned it to them -- even rewarded them -- to do so. Yet, the nation's response has been to act as though we are all equally at the same risk of it spreading like it did in New York. So far, no other metropolitan area has duplicated New York's plight, much less small towns and rural areas. And the kind of hysteria that has developed around the fear is simply irrational. Again, this morning on facebook I saw selfies of college-educated, brilliant people, nevertheless wearing masks as they hike wilderness trails. And the hysteria and fear is even worse than that -- it extends to it being politically quite incorrect to even ask those folks what exactly they think the masks are doing? The moral posturing and virtue signaling makes even asking such questions is risky.
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Post by majorminor on Apr 20, 2020 11:38:28 GMT -5
And I think I'm sneaking out some time this week. What the heck. Just me by my lonesome. How's that different than people walking in the park. Or john running in the woods. Don't get tased!!
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Post by james on Apr 20, 2020 12:06:54 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Apr 20, 2020 12:44:15 GMT -5
Bottom line is, we are on p. 92 of a 500 page mystery.
And don't mess with my metaphor. It is a mystery. And we aren't done reading it. And it may be that your guy, the butler, did indeed do it. And it may be that the victim was not the Countess Monteville but was instead an unidentifiable body double. And we don't know yet if the suspicious fortune cookie that says "Beware the monkey" is a vital clue or a devious plant. And we don't know whether the book will prove to be not worth reading or the most bestest mystery book ever. We don't know yet, any of it, because we are only on p. 92 and there are 408 pages left to go.
(Personally, I think there is a monkey involved, but we'll see.)
((and yes, I know we often have to act on less than perfect information, I read "Archie" growing up, too. I'm just saying, we are only on p.92. There is more unread than read at this point.))
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Post by millring on Apr 20, 2020 12:52:59 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Apr 20, 2020 13:16:03 GMT -5
Ah, but you are missing the true danger. The viruses that have expressed themselves to date are the faulty Chinese-released viruses. Mistakes that have sprung into action too early. The vast majority of the released viruses are acting as designed, they are spreading silently and unchecked throughout the world's population. They have been programmed to remain dormant until critical mass is reached, at which point they will be triggered to an active state by the release of an as yet unheard country-western song, a song that will spread virally on Youtube to every corner of the planet.
The Chinese testing that is currently being implemented throughout the country includes a secret vaccine that was developed in conjunction with the virus.
Very few people know this. Just another reason to check out the Soundhole Cafe on a daily basis.
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Post by epaul on Apr 20, 2020 13:28:39 GMT -5
Actually, now that I think about, the similar chord structure and melody lines shared by so many country songs may responsible for those "early actor" viruses. A reasonable confusion for man and virus alike.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Apr 20, 2020 13:32:23 GMT -5
How Peter looks at the soundhole: How the soundhole sees Peter: And, one FOR Peter:
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 20, 2020 13:41:52 GMT -5
Damn straight, Skippy.
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Post by TKennedy on Apr 20, 2020 14:58:07 GMT -5
Live free or die dude in Ohio.
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Post by theevan on Apr 20, 2020 15:00:06 GMT -5
And what are *your* thought about all this, James?
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