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Post by John B on May 31, 2020 22:05:11 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Jun 1, 2020 6:01:23 GMT -5
I like how it's got that round place at the top of the peghead on which to clamp a Kyser when it's not in use.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jun 1, 2020 7:44:17 GMT -5
Cool website.
Mike
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Post by TKennedy on Jun 1, 2020 7:53:37 GMT -5
Archtop.com is a great website. I have ordered stuff from them including an amazing reproduction of a vintage Epiphone compensated tailpiece for a 1953 Triumph Regent I was restoring. The original had a unique short end plate and the reproduction fit perfectly.
Dave Roos knows the guy pretty well and has sent him guitars to sell for clients.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 1, 2020 8:27:04 GMT -5
Couldn't find the price.
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Post by John B on Jun 1, 2020 8:57:49 GMT -5
$2,795.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 1, 2020 9:30:12 GMT -5
Wow. Not bad. Too bad I find those gypsy jazz guitars to be too tinny sounding for my taste.
(Plus what the heck do I need with another guitar?)
That being said, I'm becoming interested in a new travel guitar option. The Yamaha CSF3M. It's a short scale ( like a GS mini) parlor guitar with all solid woods
And it comes in a lovely sunburst too !
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Post by billhammond on Jun 1, 2020 9:59:20 GMT -5
Wow. Not bad. Too bad I find those gypsy jazz guitars to be too tinny sounding for my taste. (Plus what the heck do I need with another guitar?) That being said, I'm becoming interested in a new travel guitar option. The Yamaha CSF3M. It's a short scale ( like a GS mini) parlor guitar with all solid woods And it comes in a lovely sunburst too ! Some questions -- Marshall, where are you planning on traveling to, your patio?  What the hell is a zero impact pickup -- one that doesn't work? What is 600mm in AMERICAN? |
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Post by Marshall on Jun 1, 2020 10:32:31 GMT -5
It's a 23 5/8" scale similar to a GS Mini which is 23.5". I think the solid woods helps to mellow that loud boxy barky sound that GS Minis and other travel guitars exhibit. But I haven't found a video comparing the Yamaha to a GS Mini yet. . . . ,And it's damned cute.  We're heading up to WI next weekend. Invited to some friend's lake house. We can't go out to a bar and have a beer. Too much risk. So I might bring the GS Mini along. Certainly in the future I expect to travel. We cancelled out trip to AZ last month. That's tentatively on the docket for 2021. We're still scheduled to go to the Smokey Mountains this Fall with some friends for hiking for a week. I like to have a travel guitar option available. There's nothing wrong with my GS Mini. But I had loaned it out to a step granddaughter for a while. I replaced it with a Alvarez Travel guitar. Then I swapped that and gave it to her and took back the GS Mini. There are some kids in our church who recently came from Tanzania. The 10 year old boy likes guitar. His mother bought a $10 acoustic for him from a Salvation Army resale store. It doesn't play badly. I gave him a nice strap and a old TRIC case he could use for the guitar. He's taking lessons. The guitar is not good for him. I keep thinking I'd like to give him an inexpensive guitar that would be suited for a child. So maybe I'd get the Yamaha and decide if I would keep that or the GS Mini and give him the other one. It's a fun thing and does some good for some kids. The zero impact pickup is some kind of UST. There are no on-board controls for volume and tone. They sound pretty crappy from what I can tell. But I'm sure a ToneDexter could tame it pretty well. - Not that I would lug the ToneDexter around on any travel trip. I see Chicago Music Exchange says they have a used Yamaha CSF3M for sale for $150 off the new price. I might call them and see if they are open these days. (Riots and all). And, if so, swing by with the GS Mini and compare them. If the Yamaha measures up well I might pick it up and give Jefferson (the kid from Tanzania) a present, either the Y or GS. |
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Post by Russell Letson on Jun 1, 2020 10:33:49 GMT -5
The Grand Slam has been for sale for at least several months now--I try to keep track of Dunn guitars that come up for sale, in case that I might be tempted again. This one is way cheaper than one of his less unconventional models, which can run between $3-4K used. (And Michael's not building for sale any more--just personal projects that can be almost as idiosyncratic as this one.)
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Post by billhammond on Jun 1, 2020 10:43:14 GMT -5
OK, one more dumb question -- If it's laminate, can you call it "solid woods"? As opposed to what -- chipboard plywood, is that it?
I saw in another video that this same Yammy series is available with non-laminate back and sides.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 1, 2020 10:46:12 GMT -5
No. The CSF3M is solid wood back and sides. The CSF1M is laminate. Here's a comparison.
I think the solid wood model sounds better than the laminate one.
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Post by millring on Jun 1, 2020 10:51:14 GMT -5
ugly Dean bridge.
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Post by billhammond on Jun 1, 2020 11:06:16 GMT -5
Interesting review:
Work with it, and it blossoms
9 months ago
Bought open box for price comparable to laminate CSF1. The Good/Great: awesomely comfortable, great tone and projection with tweaks. 1 3/4" neck! Superior playability to comparable Martin DRJR and Taylor GS-mini. The Not So Great: Almost sent back because it just didn't measure up to sound I played at GC on the laminate CSF1, had pronounced wolf tones on B string. Comes with elixir 80/20 12s (light) which do not do it justice! Stuff I did to make it great: D'Addario Nickel Bronze Bluegrass 12-56 strings took care of wolf tones by accentuating the fundamentals; replaced with bone saddle and ebony pins; lowered action but NOT TOO MUCH to diminish tone: .0100 Low E; .0800 high E, with .007 relief. Nut was fine. What makes this thing sing?? Drive that wonderful top with more string tension. Possibly controversial: I love how it plays in Drop D#, with rest of strings tuned UP a half step. I haven't calculated but total tension around 175 lbs seems not to pose any threat. The 23.5" short scale is great for playability but for my style of more aggressive fingerstyle, perhaps just too short. At higher tension (and slightly higher action), my God that spruce top just plays like a much larger more expensive guitar. Glad I stuck it out. Won't always play at higher tension, but all my misgivings disappeared and I ended up with a bright, remarkably balanced, even bassy, parlor guitar. Very versatile (unless of course I am stressing that thin top with thin bracing too much with my bluegrass strings and unconventional tuning). Anything below standard tuning just should be played softly, though you can have fun with the more percussive "tubby" sound.
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Post by TKennedy on Jun 1, 2020 11:16:35 GMT -5
The Grand Slam has been for sale for at least several months now--I try to keep track of Dunn guitars that come up for sale, in case that I might be tempted again. This one is way cheaper than one of his less unconventional models, which can run between $3-4K used. (And Michael's not building for sale any more--just personal projects that can be almost as idiosyncratic as this one.) It’d look good on you Russ. Just sayin’. |
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Post by Marshall on Jun 1, 2020 11:25:50 GMT -5
The Worm !Yeah, that's the one thing I don't like. But if it measures up sound-wise and the neck profile is acceptable, then I could live with it. The videos and web site I've seen say it's a 1 11/16 neck, not 1 3/4. |
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Post by Village Idiot on Jun 1, 2020 16:50:09 GMT -5
Honestly, I saw the pictures and I don't like it. I like normal looking guitars. Besides, if you're ever playing in front of people or alone for that matter, who is going to see the fancy back? I'm seeing no point in that.
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Post by millring on Jun 1, 2020 17:53:41 GMT -5
Honestly, I saw the pictures and I don't like it. I like normal looking guitars. Besides, if you're ever playing in front of people or alone for that matter, who is going to see the fancy back? I'm seeing no point in that. I remember the story of a famous sculptor who was working tirelessly on the back side of a figure that would be later placed in a small alcove/architectural niche specifically designed for the sculpture. Someone asked the artist, "Why do you take such care with the back side of the figure when it will be placed in such a way that nobody will ever see it?" The sculptor answered, "God will see it". So, whoever buys that guitar will know that his belly is not alone. |
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Post by John B on Jun 16, 2020 16:01:51 GMT -5
Back to the original guitar maker, here's one that's flashy from the front, not the back, for Todd's sake. Russell, it's at just under $4K USD at Folkway Music. Probably my favorite-looking style of Michael Dunn guitars.  |
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Post by Russell Letson on Jun 16, 2020 16:49:19 GMT -5
A Mystery Pacific is one of the models I would have seriously considered, had Michael had one available when I was buying--that was the model he was gigging on at that time, and I really liked its voice. But the Daphne was pretty close, and I got to love its sound. I'd take a swing at this one, but it's Michael's standard neck profile that has made me stop playing the Daphne for more than a few minutes at a time. (On the other, um, hand, its fingerboard is a bit narrower than the Daphne's, and that would make a difference.)
I have, though, found a successor to the Dunn: a 2004 Shelley Park Elan 12 on which archtop.com had just dropped the price to way below the usual asking for one of her guitars. Now I'll (reluctantly) have to find a buyer for the Daphne, after someone cleats a couple of small cracks on the back, down by the tailblock.
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