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Post by theevan on Jul 23, 2024 11:04:12 GMT -5
Too much heat in the kitchen.
Has she been treated unfairly? I don't know. But the incident is clearly a massive failure, and is looking worse as more info trickles out. At least this isn't old Japan when seppuku was expected. Wait, was that the bloodbath Trump predicted? Seppuku?
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Post by coachdoc on Jul 23, 2024 11:50:42 GMT -5
Cheatle? So who is this person you refer to.
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Post by epaul on Jul 23, 2024 11:54:10 GMT -5
Par for course. Expected. Goes with the job. There was failure, there is a price to be paid. Buck stops here. Plenty of other bosses to be found. Seppuku.
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Post by coachdoc on Jul 23, 2024 11:58:40 GMT -5
Oh. Not her fault, but she chose the hot seat.
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Post by coachdoc on Jul 23, 2024 12:05:59 GMT -5
Where will she land? Private or public?
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jul 23, 2024 12:44:26 GMT -5
Where will she land? Private or public? Mall cop?
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Post by theevan on Jul 23, 2024 13:18:45 GMT -5
DEI czar at an Ivy League?
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Post by james on Jul 23, 2024 13:25:21 GMT -5
This anti DEI sneering is getting old and nasty very quickly, IMO.
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Post by Dub on Jul 23, 2024 13:27:26 GMT -5
Oh. Not her fault, but she chose the hot seat. Whaddya talkin’? Of course it was her fault.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jul 23, 2024 13:34:14 GMT -5
This anti DEI sneering is getting old and nasty very quickly, IMO. Agree.
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Post by millring on Jul 23, 2024 14:11:20 GMT -5
It became the law of the land without a single vote cast -- either for it OR against it. It deserves every sneer it gets. It deserves worse than mere sneers.
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Post by james on Jul 23, 2024 14:38:01 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Jul 23, 2024 14:49:29 GMT -5
That's a complete misrepresentation of the objections to DEI.
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Post by TKennedy on Jul 23, 2024 17:06:30 GMT -5
Call me stupid but I had to look up what DEI meant.
Edit: I also had to look up “Brat Summer”
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Post by theevan on Jul 23, 2024 17:07:29 GMT -5
DEI makes a doctrinal priority of
Diversity. Adds weight to staffing/admissions/etc based on race, gender I'd and so on rather than merit. Result is a weaker staff/student body.
Equity. Mandates equal outcomes. We are based on equal opportunity. It has become a code for other things such as reparations.
Inclusion. More of the above.
All of which is not only corrosive but is also demeaning to the groups it purport to help, implying they can't make it on merit.
Above all, it views people, not as individual but as groups, inevitably pitting one against another.
Those are a few of my objections.
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Post by TKennedy on Jul 23, 2024 19:01:17 GMT -5
That clarifies things. Thanks.
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Post by james on Jul 23, 2024 19:17:15 GMT -5
A parade of right-wing media and others saying that Kamala Harris and Kimberly Cheatle are/were "DEI hires" is a sorry spectacle. It is in these instances, as is not infrequently the case nowadays, a way of disparaging the worth, quality and suitability of people for their occupations primarily because of their gender. Pitiful.
The condescending, sexist bullshit is rife at the moment.
With Harris being a person of colour, the attacks are uglier still.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jul 23, 2024 19:43:30 GMT -5
The reason behind DEI is that the people it is intended to aid were not being treated fairly.
It is predictable which of you disagree, but in my 77 years I have seen the evidence.
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Post by Russell Letson on Jul 23, 2024 20:08:05 GMT -5
Cheatle was with the Secret Service for a total of 29 years and was made Director in 2022 after running security for Pepsico for three years. Given the range of senior posts she held in the Service, it's a bit of a stretch to call her a "DEI hire." And that phrase has indeed become a slur and a sneer--the tone is unmistakable, especially when applied to non-whites. (It's already being aimed at Harris, who gets a double dose--or triple, if you count her South Asian heritage.) It's right up there with "welfare queen" in the lexicon of right-wing snarl terms. I understand that on-my-watch statements and ritual resignation are common in the culture of politically-exposed leadership positions. But I noticed that in an interview on NPR, the Bush Administration Director was not as hard on Cheatle as her Congressional interrogators were--though he didn't downplay the seriousness of the on-the-ground failure to prevent the assassination attempt. www.npr.org/2024/07/23/nx-s1-5049719/former-secret-service-head-on-the-agencys-controversy-following-the-rally-shooting
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