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Post by PaulKay on Aug 12, 2024 9:18:43 GMT -5
A exceptional piece from Yahoo Business on the progress being made on AI powered robots. My biggest takeaway is the these "humanoids" won't be "programmed", they'll be "trained". Once any one humanoid is "trained", the data set can be basically downloaded and adopted in all the humanoids. Robots in the field can be updated with new training data to adopt new capabilities. For widespread adoption in a factory setting, they estimate each needs to cost $100K. For adoption into every house, the cost would be need to be $10K. Maybe your grandkids might see that happen. AI, humanoid ambitions take shape |
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Post by howard lee on Aug 12, 2024 9:22:56 GMT -5
Somehow I feel comforted by the fact that I will be just a memory when this goes full throttle.
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Post by Cornflake on Aug 12, 2024 10:27:51 GMT -5
When I was a kid, robots were figments of Isaac Asimov's imagination. Now they're becoming real. I harbor a suspicion that their abilities will fall far short of what we might wish, but I could be wrong.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 12, 2024 11:54:20 GMT -5
Can they play guitar?
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Post by Cornflake on Aug 12, 2024 12:23:10 GMT -5
"Can they play guitar?" Yes, but only in the key of G.
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Post by TKennedy on Aug 12, 2024 14:52:29 GMT -5
And they will all answer to “Gort”
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Post by RickW on Aug 12, 2024 15:06:12 GMT -5
At some point, if this ever actually comes to complete fruition, (and will it get that far, I guess we’ll see…,) then nobody would need to do any kind of physical labour anymore at all. No one would have to stock a shelf, man a till, dig a fence post, turn a wrench. At which point, do we move to having a few elites living like gods, and the rest of us wallowing in abject poverty, or does the economic system completely change to where every human being is given enough to live, maybe enough to do whatever they want, in some way, shape, form? Pretty much a complete welfare state. I really don’t know, but if robots can do it all, society as we know it can’t remain unchanged. And I’d imagine the pain of getting to wherever that is will be massive. We don’t deal with change well, (See massive political divide and anger in the US now.)
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Post by Dub on Aug 12, 2024 15:06:42 GMT -5
And they will all answer to “Gort” We can only hope. I figure they’ll come back from the future to murder our granddaughters so their sons won’t exist in the future. |
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Post by howard lee on Aug 12, 2024 15:23:38 GMT -5
"...or does the economic system completely change to where every human being is given enough to live, maybe enough to do whatever they want, in some way, shape, form? Pretty much a complete welfare state." — RickW
Not in this country.
Certain conservatives on this board would be happy to point out that's Communism.
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Post by millring on Aug 12, 2024 17:18:52 GMT -5
Not in this country. Certain conservatives on this board would be happy to point out that's Communism. No, I'd be sad to point out that that would be hell. |
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Post by Dub on Aug 12, 2024 17:31:18 GMT -5
…or does the economic system completely change to where every human being is given enough to live, maybe enough to do whatever they want, in some way, shape, form? Kind of like H.G. Wells’ Eloi, kept alive as meat for the Morlocks. |
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Post by RickW on Aug 12, 2024 17:55:58 GMT -5
Not in this country. Certain conservatives on this board would be happy to point out that's Communism. No, I'd be sad to point out that that would be hell. There would be some who’d see the freedom to do great things, just to create, maybe to find faith and live within it. I try, I know others who try, to use retirement that way. But sadly, I’d have to agree with you. “The devil makes work for idle hands,” is one truism that’s very true. It never seems to go well when most folks have nothing to propel them. So many of the muslim world’s terrorists come from refugee camps, which for the most part are nothing but prisons, places where people are stored when no one wants them, has nothing for them to do. One of my creative friends who’s spent his life poor felt that a universal income would be solution to many problems, especially for those like him. I was accused of elitism when I wondered about that. |
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Post by epaul on Aug 12, 2024 18:33:49 GMT -5
You darn elitist!
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Post by PaulKay on Aug 13, 2024 9:13:33 GMT -5
When I was a kid, robots were figments of Isaac Asimov's imagination. Now they're becoming real. I harbor a suspicion that their abilities will fall far short of what we might wish, but I could be wrong. I think most new things tend to get extrapolated to extremes. But to be sure, capitalism will seek the lowest cost for labor it can find. That financial incentive will drive humanoid development regardless of its impact to human employment. |
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Post by Cornflake on Aug 13, 2024 10:17:02 GMT -5
"There would be some who’d see the freedom to do great things, just to create, maybe to find faith and live within it. I try, I know others who try, to use retirement that way."
That's pretty much been my approach, except that I had faith going in and didn't have to find it. I think retirement is a great gig. I have enough money for my modest needs. I have the time to do what I want. There have been times when I was bored but that was true when I was still working. I give it five stars.
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Post by dradtke on Aug 13, 2024 10:40:37 GMT -5
do we move to having a few elites living like gods, and the rest of us wallowing in abject poverty, or does the economic system completely change to where every human being is given enough to live, maybe enough to do whatever they want, in some way, shape, form? The first, because too many people will worry that someone else might get something they don't think they "deserve" to achieve the second. |
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Post by Marshall on Aug 14, 2024 7:45:39 GMT -5
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