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Post by Cornflake on Aug 14, 2024 9:17:22 GMT -5
Ukraine's incursion into Russia doesn't seem likely to change the big picture very much. Russia still has a lot more troops, a lot more armaments, a lot more everything. But the incursion is messing with Putin's mind and making the Russians look bad. It's cheering the Ukrainians up. It's cheering me up.
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Post by epaul on Aug 14, 2024 9:27:24 GMT -5
Yes.
Next time Kiev is hit, airmail one to the Kremlin. Take the fun out of his war.
And the turn in the electoral tide over here has to also be messing with his head big time. Your best time to make a deal might be right now, Putin. You might not get your orange puffball.
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Post by kbcolorado on Aug 14, 2024 9:36:11 GMT -5
Don, I had the same reaction to the news, though the citizens displaced by this action are as innocent as the citizens in Ukraine. War just sucks. But, the more it sucks for Putin, the better.
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Post by Cornflake on Aug 14, 2024 9:50:12 GMT -5
"Don, I had the same reaction to the news, though the citizens displaced by this action are as innocent as the citizens in Ukraine. War just sucks. But, the more it sucks for Putin, the better."
I agree, Paul. I also remind myself that the Russian troops are not the culprits. Putin is.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 14, 2024 11:03:34 GMT -5
It's a ballsy move. Gets them outta the slugging out defensive situation. At least temporarily. But Russia has the big advantage in numbers and doesn't seem to care how many troops get lost in the meat grinder. So, we'll see how this plays out. It's certainly an escalation with the Ukes "invading" a neighbor. Justified? Depends on how you look at it. Putin's boys are yelling at the UN about being invaded. (While Western countries sit on their hands).
The Ukes better have other contingency plans, like moving the fight elsewhere. They have to keep one step ahead of the slow moving Russian Bear. Going toe to toe with them is very tough proposition.
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Post by majorminor on Aug 14, 2024 11:10:20 GMT -5
It's a ballsy move. Gets them outta the slugging out defensive situation. At least temporarily. But Russia has the big advantage in numbers and doesn't seem to care how many troops get lost in the meat grinder. So, we'll see how this plays out. It's certainly an escalation with the Ukes "invading" a neighbor. Justified? Depends on how you look at it. Putin's boys are yelling at the UN about being invaded. (While Western countries sit on their hands). The Ukes better have other contingency plans, like moving the fight elsewhere. They have to keep one step ahead of the slow moving Russian Bear. Going toe to toe with them is very tough proposition. It has a whiff of late stage strategy to force an end because they have to |
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Post by Marshall on Aug 14, 2024 11:13:48 GMT -5
Yeah. They blew it a year ago by advertising their "offensive." The Ruskies are historically great at digging in against a known invasion. They were ready. This is a smarter move.
Hope it bears fruit this time.
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Post by millring on Aug 14, 2024 13:33:55 GMT -5
Don, I had the same reaction to the news, though the citizens displaced by this action are as innocent as the citizens in Ukraine Gaza. War just sucks. But, the more it sucks for Putin, the better. (actually, they're more innocent. There's no evidence that the people of Russia cheered the Russian invasion of Ukraine as the Palestinian people cheered October 7) |
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Post by Marshall on Aug 15, 2024 19:01:50 GMT -5
It occurred to me that U could (finally) be using the western Equipment, tanks& APCs, to good use. They’re not trying a frontal assault to dug in positions. They can be marauders. Make the slower moving Russian bear chase them. Then quickly move elsewhere.
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