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Post by epaul on Aug 23, 2024 19:37:02 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Aug 23, 2024 20:00:46 GMT -5
The article is paywalled. I assume they already did DNA testing and somehow that was inconclusive?
Malamutes are wolf's closest domestic cousin. Some Malamutes possess a gene that presents in a long or longer coat. It disqualifies the dog in the breed ring because it is seen as a hindrance to the dog's usefulness as a winter sled dog. The coat, rather than keeping them warm, ices over, weighs them down, and freezes them. It's assumed that the long coats wouldn't survive the first winter in the wild north.
IceSha has that long coat gene. It has sort of semi-presented itself in IceSha. Her coat is somewhat longer, but still within standard (in fact, she had little trouble finishing her breed championship and seems to be rather a "judge's delight"). Some of the longcoats present positively yak-like.
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Post by drlj on Aug 23, 2024 20:06:07 GMT -5
It’s a cross between a wolf and a poodle. They are calling it a wolferoodle. It’s a strange and yappy thing with very curly hair. |
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Post by Marshall on Aug 23, 2024 20:14:15 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Aug 23, 2024 21:36:10 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Aug 23, 2024 21:37:02 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Aug 23, 2024 21:39:08 GMT -5
I'm calling him "Buck".
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Post by epaul on Aug 23, 2024 21:56:04 GMT -5
In Jack London's story, Buck was a St. Bernard living happily with his family in California when he was Dognapped by dog thieves hoping to cash in on the shortage of sled dogs up in Alaska during the crazy ass gold rush in the Klondike. Buck has to survive dog fights, rotten owners, and mean Malamutes to survive. Which he does. Eventually, Buck finally finds a good owner and becomes a trusted sled dog, until his good owner is killed. After chewing up the bad guys real good, Buck runs off into the Wild with a pretty she-wolf he had met earlier and becomes the leader of a wolf pack, hence the title London gave his book, "The Leader of the Pack!".
(Call of the Wild)
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Post by epaul on Aug 23, 2024 21:59:37 GMT -5
Notice the snow. Typical late August day up in da Nordth.
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Post by millring on Aug 24, 2024 4:49:03 GMT -5
Still unsure why they don't just do a DNA test. If malamutes can be long or short coated, I'm not sure why wolves wouldn't be exactly the same way (since that's essentially why the mal coat is like it is in the first place). This is IceSha and her brother at 1 year old. Their coat difference is exactly the same difference you see in the wolf video. Her brother has a more normal mal coat and IceSha carries the gene for the long coat (they tested it for future breeding purposes). As I said, the truly long, long coats die off in their first winter -- the irony being that too much coat kills them.  |
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Post by dradtke on Aug 24, 2024 17:55:20 GMT -5
They didn't catch it. All they have is trail cam pictures.
It looks Malamutish to me, but I'm not that familiar with them. I've seen plenty of wolves in the wild up nort', and I worked on the Wolf Center museum in Ely.
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Post by howard lee on Aug 24, 2024 18:01:04 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Aug 24, 2024 18:03:51 GMT -5
They didn't catch it. All they have is trail cam pictures. I was thinking maybe they could gather scat or hair. |
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Post by Dub on Aug 24, 2024 18:40:03 GMT -5
Oh, you mean the “extinct canine that lived in the Americas (with a possible single record also known from East Asia) during the Late Pleistocene and Early Holocene epochs (125,000–9,500 years ago)?” That dire wolf? Cool. On edit: I had to look up dire wolves, having never heard of them before. Eventually, and after posting the above Wikipedia quote, I learned that the animal name was used in a TV show called Game of Thrones. Of course no actual dire wolves lived to threaten human kingdoms. |
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Post by epaul on Aug 24, 2024 18:40:34 GMT -5
Put out some sweetcorn and greenbeans. No problem gathering plenty of scat.
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Post by dradtke on Aug 25, 2024 18:12:12 GMT -5
That sure looks like a Jim Brandenburg photo to me. |
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Post by Village Idiot on Aug 25, 2024 19:21:10 GMT -5
Put out some sweetcorn and greenbeans. No problem gathering plenty of scat. How would they know is the scat (or fur) belonged to that animal? |
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Post by epaul on Aug 25, 2024 20:10:50 GMT -5
They shoot the animal with radioactive dart. When they go out scat gathering, they bring a Geiger counter.
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Post by John B on Aug 25, 2024 20:29:35 GMT -5
They shoot the animal with radioactive dart. When they go out scat gathering, they bring a Geiger counter. Don't believe Paul's lies. It's kind of like a fingerprint - every animal's tastes different. |
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