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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Sept 10, 2024 20:32:21 GMT -5
OMG!
Mike
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Post by Russell Letson on Sept 10, 2024 20:51:09 GMT -5
I can hardly stand to stay in the room with it. He lies with complete conviction about things that anybody with a smartphone can check out. And the cartoon vision of crime being down everywhere else in the world because all the criminals are coming here. . . .
And I know that all around me there are people nodding their heads and saying, "See--he tells it like it is."
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Sept 10, 2024 21:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by Marty on Sept 10, 2024 21:13:37 GMT -5
WTF! Link please.
Never mind. I made a guess and was right. Trump again.
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Post by drlj on Sept 10, 2024 21:42:25 GMT -5
I had a hot dog tonight. I think it was made from cat meat. It was good.
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Post by dradtke on Sept 10, 2024 21:50:04 GMT -5
Not only did she eat his lunch, she made him sweep the floor and clean the toilets afterwards. And he didn't even know he was doing it.
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Post by Cornflake on Sept 10, 2024 21:50:52 GMT -5
That was exhausting to watch.
She was much better than I expected. He was about what I expected. But we know him and we didn't really know her.
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Post by TKennedy on Sept 10, 2024 23:53:34 GMT -5
We had a gig so I’ll have to watch a rerun. The wine bar was virtually empty except for about three tables so my unscientific poll .indicates heavy viewership.
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Post by howard lee on Sept 11, 2024 6:34:45 GMT -5
Forty-some-odd years ago, when I began my wretched publishing career, the assistant manager of the page composition department shared an anecdote about when he was a US Marine during the Vietnam War. Don (may he rest in peace) was attached to a unit that helped South Vietnamese villagers build schools and medical facilities. At one such village, the residents threw a big celebratory dinner for the Marines when the schoolhouse was finished. Don said they served some sort of very tasty, savory stew. He complimented one of his hosts on the dish and asked what sort of meat had been used.
"Dog," was the reply. At first he thought they were joking, but then it was confirmed. Not wishing to offend his hosts, he cleaned his plate.
I asked Don how dog stew tasted. "It was pretty good," he told me.
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Post by factorychef on Sept 11, 2024 6:53:57 GMT -5
Pass the Trump sauce.
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Post by kbcolorado on Sept 11, 2024 8:42:10 GMT -5
MAGA claims to have gotten the Trump they wanted.
Harris camp got the Trump they wanted.
Everybody wins.
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Post by Shannon on Sept 11, 2024 8:55:23 GMT -5
Why couldn't either one of them actually answer a question?
I have no use for either of them.
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Post by Cornflake on Sept 11, 2024 9:05:45 GMT -5
"Why couldn't either one of them actually answer a question?"
That bothered me too. It goes against all my training.
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Post by Marty on Sept 11, 2024 9:38:55 GMT -5
Why couldn't either one of them actually answer a question? I have no use for either of them. As always it comes down to voting for the lesser of two evils. Place your bet and take your chances. |
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Post by howard lee on Sept 11, 2024 9:56:50 GMT -5
Why couldn't either one of them actually answer a question? I have no use for either of them.
They never do, those politicians. I think Kamala came closest to answering some of the questions, but "almost" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, yeah? My sense is that candidates never reveal their "plan" step by step before an election. Sometimes not even after an election. Sometimes they don't even have a plan but they want you to think they do.
I don't have a plan, but I have a concept of a plan.
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Post by TKennedy on Sept 11, 2024 10:01:47 GMT -5
Well I watched it. My take-
Moderators a little slanted towards Harris
Harris easily manipulating Trump and putting him off balance by pressing the appropriate buttons while maintaining poise and dignity.
Definitely some policy points from Harris (but not enough) vs. almost none from Trump as he was kept on the defensive by well timed insults.
Usual barrage of lies and exaggeration from Trump. Fewer from Harris.
Harris proving herself a more formidable opponent than I think many expected.
Underscores the necessity for a second Fox moderated debate to see if Harris can maintain poise under more hostile moderation.
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Post by Russell Letson on Sept 11, 2024 10:14:21 GMT -5
Shannon and Cornflake: I'm getting just a whiff of both-side-ism here. Correcting for the inevitable and near-universal habit of politicians sliding around more-difficult/uncomfortable questions, Harris's responses were well within the normal range for shading the truth, while Trump's offerings ran from evidence-free or flat-out untrue assertions (about inflation, crime statistics, infanticide, illegal immigrants voting, January 6, his lost court cases, Harris meeting with Putin but not Netanyahu) to urban mythology (pet-eating immigrants, immigrant-driven crime waves).
The pet-eating immigrants bit is getting all the attention--Trump's source: "the people on television saying my dog was taken and used for food." But my favorite was the assertion that not only is the flood of immigrants filled with people from prisons and insane asylums, but that "all over the world, crime is down—all over the world except here," where crime is "through the roof," because "they’ve taken their criminals off the street and they’ve given them to her to put into our country." And in both cases, Trump dismissed evidence to the contrary, including FBI crime stats, which he called "fraud."
It ain't even close.
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Post by TKennedy on Sept 11, 2024 10:31:29 GMT -5
Forty-some-odd years ago, when I began my wretched publishing career, the assistant manager of the page composition department shared an anecdote about when he was a US Marine during the Vietnam War. Don (may he rest in peace) was attached to a unit that helped South Vietnamese villagers build schools and medical facilities. At one such village, the residents threw a big celebratory dinner for the Marines when the schoolhouse was finished. Don said they served some sort of very tasty, savory stew. He complimented one of his hosts on the dish and asked what sort of meat had been used. "Dog," was the reply. At first he thought they were joking, but then it was confirmed. Not wishing to offend his hosts, he cleaned his plate.
I asked Don how dog stew tasted. "It was pretty good," he told me.
Woking your dog- |
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Sept 11, 2024 10:40:59 GMT -5
I like dogs, but I can't eat a whole one.
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Post by papabill on Sept 11, 2024 10:50:59 GMT -5
Forty-some-odd years ago, when I began my wretched publishing career, the assistant manager of the page composition department shared an anecdote about when he was a US Marine during the Vietnam War. Don (may he rest in peace) was attached to a unit that helped South Vietnamese villagers build schools and medical facilities. At one such village, the residents threw a big celebratory dinner for the Marines when the schoolhouse was finished. Don said they served some sort of very tasty, savory stew. He complimented one of his hosts on the dish and asked what sort of meat had been used.
"Dog," was the reply. At first he thought they were joking, but then it was confirmed. Not wishing to offend his hosts, he cleaned his plate.
I asked Don how dog stew tasted. "It was pretty good," he told me.
I believe those "units" were called CAPs (Civic Action Platoons). You didn't hear much about them 50+ years ago, since most reports of troop action were negative or "anti-war." These were very stressful times for military personnel. Most, including myself, wouldn't find the thought of eating dog very appetizing but experience can change your mind. I was never an avid hunter but from my adolescence thru my mid teens, it wasn't unusual to hunt small game (squirrel, rabbit, birds, raccoon, etc.) in the lean months of winter. No matter how repulsive it may sound, when you're hungry enough or in survival mode, you would eat it and enjoy it. Circumstances like Don experienced also add an element of cultural differences where it's best not to offend your hosts. |
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