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Post by Shannon on Sept 11, 2024 8:53:01 GMT -5
What do you think? I'd have to say it isn't too bad!
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Post by howard lee on Sept 11, 2024 9:05:04 GMT -5
Sounds pretty good, Shannon, if audio in an online video comes anywhere near the in-person sound. Clear and crisp mids and trebles; the bass sounds a lot fuller than the Taylor 510 I had in 1996-98, which was very mid-rangey. It could seem, in the interim years, the designers at Taylor Guitars have re-voiced their guitars. (I just wish, aesthetically, more builders would age that blinding white binding on sunburst or relic'ed guitars.)
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Post by Tamarack on Sept 11, 2024 11:04:47 GMT -5
I have played several Taylor *17 models and liked them. They still sound like Taylors, but with some Martinesque and Gibsonesque tones.
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Post by Dub on Sept 11, 2024 12:26:08 GMT -5
Dan Crary used to play Taylors. I first saw him play Mossmans, then Taylors. I don’t know what he plays now.
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Post by coachdoc on Sept 11, 2024 12:51:27 GMT -5
Would like to hear a good flatpicker play the same tune back to back on a Taylor and Martin
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Post by Dub on Sept 11, 2024 13:28:02 GMT -5
I’m not familiar with Taylor’s model designations. Can any of you identify the Taylor model Crary is playing in the video I posted?
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Post by Tamarack on Sept 11, 2024 13:46:59 GMT -5
I’m not sure, but I think it is a Dan Crary Signature Model, or maybe a prototype that Taylor made for him before they made it a production model
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Post by Dub on Sept 11, 2024 13:57:41 GMT -5
I’m not sure, but I think it is a Dan Crary Signature Model, or maybe a prototype that Taylor made for him before they made it a production model How would its design and appointments differ from “standard” Taylor models? |
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Post by PaulKay on Sept 11, 2024 17:44:58 GMT -5
I’m still skeptical about the new V brace scheme as being better than the Martin X brace.
The V brace guitar should include an arm rest along the upper bout edge to keep the player from dampening the sound.
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Post by Shannon on Sept 11, 2024 22:06:14 GMT -5
I have been given the opportunity to make a little extra cash this fall, and I might be looking to make a guitar purchase later in the year. I fingerpick, strum, and play a bit of lead. I love bluegrass flatpicking, but I don't do much of it.
I can't decide what kind of guitar I want. OMs are most comfortable for me, but I have OMs I love in both mahogany and rosewood. I really like the Martin OM-21 and -28, but I really don't need another OM.
I have always felt that the quintessential acoustic guitar sound came from a D-18, so I'm considering that. I also love the D-28, so maybe that would be good. Then again, I've never played a Larrivee that disappointed me, and their 44 Legacy series look like a possibility. And now, I have to admit I've rather liked the Taylor Grand Pacific's that I've played, despite having been underwhelmed by Taylors in the past.
I've got time to think about it; the money isn't earned yet. I probably will be a winner no matter what I choose. But I tend to be a victim of analysis paralysis, and I hope to overcome it this time!
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Post by Marshall on Sept 11, 2024 22:17:14 GMT -5
I’m not familiar with Taylor’s model designations. Can any of you identify the Taylor model Crary is playing in the video I posted? He’s playing a dread in the video with a cutaway. Dreads were “10” models. I don’t think they make 10s anymore ( unless there’s still a Crary model). They’ve switched to the “17” model series now which are slope dreads. 15s are jumbos. 14s are grand auditoriums. 12s I think are grand concerts. 20 years ago I had a 714. Seven hundred series grand auditorium. |
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Post by Russell Letson on Sept 11, 2024 22:51:28 GMT -5
Shannon, just play as many as you can get your hands and ears on. Even hearing other people's playing (especially in recordings) won't establish what a given instrument will do in your hands.
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Post by Tamarack on Sept 12, 2024 6:01:55 GMT -5
The Dan Crary Signature Model was a 1980s/1990s variant of the 810 rosewood dreadnaught, which was Taylor's mainstay at the time. Slightly modified bracing. The guitar DC is playing on the video has the addition of a fretboard extension.
The Taylor Grand Pacific series was designed by Andy Powers to have a sound where the notes blend, rather than the more "articulate" Taylor sound. (To hear Taylor's PR people tell it, Andy Powers is the greatest guitar designer since CF Martin I)
The last dreadnaught that impressed me was a D-18 retro or vintage or whatever they called it (not a standard D-18) It was a couple of years old sitting on the Elderly used rack; had the quintessential D-18 sound.
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Post by drlj on Sept 12, 2024 15:45:49 GMT -5
I’m not sure, but I think it is a Dan Crary Signature Model, or maybe a prototype that Taylor made for him before they made it a production model How would its design and appointments differ from “standard” Taylor models? It had a rather unique looking cutaway and it was braced differently than the 810, which is actually what it was. The 810 had scalloped braces, but Crary wanted taller braces like his Mossmans. It is no longer in production but Crary still plays his. |
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Post by howard lee on Sept 12, 2024 17:21:09 GMT -5
I’m not sure, but I think it is a Dan Crary Signature Model, or maybe a prototype that Taylor made for him before they made it a production model How would its design and appointments differ from “standard” Taylor models?
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Post by howard lee on Sept 13, 2024 6:18:56 GMT -5
The appointments of Taylor guitars were never appealing to me: that pick guard, the shape of the bridge, even the silhouette of the peg head. Plus, in 1998, when I started taking bluegrass lessons, I wanted a guitar with more prominent bass than the Taylor 510 I had purchased from Rudy's two years earlier. I traded in the Taylor for a Martin D-18V I found accidentally at Mandolin Brothers—RIP, Stan Jay—which I sold in 2012 to pay for a Huss and Dalton TD-M in Sinker Mahogany, a very satisfying trade.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 13, 2024 7:46:37 GMT -5
I think most serious guitar players go through a Taylor phase. They make a well built and consistent product. The appointments are immediately recognizable. I bought one in '96. It was my No 1 until 2002 when my 1957 J50 found me. For 20 years I received my regular copy of Wood and Steel.
I have to admit I'm rather snobby now, and I think less of them in general. But I have some musical friends that are still drinking the Kool-ade.
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Post by majorminor on Sept 13, 2024 7:48:09 GMT -5
Not much to add other than we had a little living room acoustic jam session a month ago and a friends dad was passing through and had on older 910 which was a blinged out dread. He made his living gigging so it was well used but sounded really good.
Yes a D18 in one of the quintessential sounds and the newer standard series Martin ones are a really good iteration.
But...Gibsons rule and all the rest drool.
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Post by John B on Sept 13, 2024 8:41:41 GMT -5
But I have some musical friends that are still drinking the Kool-aid. Funny; that's what I say about you and Gibsons. |
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Post by drlj on Sept 13, 2024 8:46:46 GMT -5
I had a Taylor 712 that I really liked. It was stolen by a meth head.
I currently have a Taylor 555 12 string which is the easiest playing 12 I have ever owned. I like its looks and the way it sounds. It really booms with heavier strings and C# tuning but it is pretty nice with the usual lights on it, too.
I also have a GS Mini Koa that is a great travel guitar. It sounds great and is enjoyable to play.
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