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Post by factorychef on Sept 17, 2024 20:23:51 GMT -5
Small select group I said.
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Post by james on Sept 17, 2024 21:26:13 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 17, 2024 22:00:43 GMT -5
Hmmm......I wonder why noone's taken a shot at Joe? After all, we all know MAGAs are just Klansmen hillbillies on steroids. |
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Post by james on Sept 17, 2024 22:10:24 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 17, 2024 22:21:18 GMT -5
From my hometown? Wow. Hadn't heard of it. So only online threats? Didn't hang around a Kamala rally (I assume there are such things) for an hour checking out his shot and climbing a roof within 150 yards of Kamala and then, of course popping off 7 or 8 rounds before being dropped? Yep, there's real equivalence for you. |
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Post by factorychef on Sept 18, 2024 5:26:48 GMT -5
Looks like Harris has had some BIG crowds!
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 18, 2024 6:23:30 GMT -5
Looks like Harris has had some BIG crowds! Great. Let me know when she finally figures out how to construct a rational sentence and explain what her actual policy positions are and why they've changed so drastically in the last 3 or 4 years. |
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Post by factorychef on Sept 18, 2024 6:59:47 GMT -5
Opinions can change over the years. That's what people do all the time. Harris made that clear in the debate and trump melted like the Witch in the Wizard of Oz. He's an old man and rehashing stuff from his last run for president. All he does is run America down.we never had these problems till Trump showed up on the scene.Remember if he loses he will go to prison. He is desperate. Whale!
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Post by howard lee on Sept 18, 2024 7:29:20 GMT -5
Looks like Harris has had some BIG crowds! Great. Let me know when she finally figures out how to construct a rational sentence and explain what her actual policy positions are and why they've changed so drastically in the last 3 or 4 years.
Sometimes policy positions change. You know how that works; candidates court the voters. They all do it. This wouldn't be the first time it has happened in our history or in current events. For example, Trump waffled on the abortion issue—initially he came out against abortion, then more recently, sort of for, with stipulations. (By the way, his insistence that "the Democrats" are in favor of "killing babies after they're born" is pure horse hockey. In my mind, you know what constitutes killing babies after they're born? School shootings.)
PS: I am not comforted by the fact that Trump has "the concept of a plan." I don't even know what that means. So, there are obviously nerves on both sides of the aisle.
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Post by majorminor on Sept 18, 2024 7:42:22 GMT -5
She's plenty intelligent and we all know why she's changed some of her positions on key issues. The issue is whether it's just lip service or not to get elected.
It's the wrong way to attack her anyway. At least half the people in the country have had their lifestyle crammed down to check to check and hand to mouth due to housing increases and inflation on core foods and supplies. I'm not sure this primarily old, white, college educated professional demographic here really gets that. The current administration oversaw the massive increase of the money supply that caused this problem for the working class. That and border security is all you need to attack her on. It's not her IQ.
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Post by jdd2 on Sept 18, 2024 7:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by Cornflake on Sept 18, 2024 7:59:24 GMT -5
"At least half the people in the country have had their lifestyle crammed down to check to check and hand to mouth due to housing increases and inflation on core foods and supplies. I'm not sure this primarily old, white, college educated professional demographic here really gets that. The current administration oversaw the massive increase of the money supply that caused this problem for the working class."
I think you're right that retired people tend to focus on a booming market while younger people tend to focus on higher prices. It's easy to have blinders.
I disagree with your last sentence. Inflation was mostly a worldwide result of the jolts to the economy caused by the pandemic.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 18, 2024 8:00:09 GMT -5
She's plenty intelligent and we all know why she's changed some of her positions on key issues. The issue is whether it's just lip service or not to get elected. It's the wrong way to attack her anyway. At least half the people in the country have had their lifestyle crammed down to check to check and hand to mouth due to housing increases and inflation on core foods and supplies. I'm not sure this primarily old, white, college educated professional demographic here really gets that. The current administration oversaw the massive increase of the money supply that caused this problem for the working class. That and border security is all you need to attack her on. It's not her IQ. The over supply of money is a FED Reserve thing. And that came out of the pandemic shut-down to help the ease the economic consequences. I really think the POTUS (whomever) has little to do with that. |
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 18, 2024 8:02:45 GMT -5
Great. Let me know when she finally figures out how to construct a rational sentence and explain what her actual policy positions are and why they've changed so drastically in the last 3 or 4 years. Sometimes policy positions change. You know how that works; candidates court the voters. They all do it. This wouldn't be the first time it has happened in our history or in current events. For example, Trump waffled on the abortion issue—initially he came out against abortion, then more recently, sort of for, with stipulations. (By the way, his insistence that "the Democrats" are in favor of "killing babies after they're born" is pure horse hockey. In my mind, you know what constitutes killing babies after they're born? School shootings.)
PS: I am not comforted by the fact that Trump has "the concept of a plan." I don't even know what that means. So, there are obviously nerves on both sides of the aisle.
Trump's views on abortion are irrelevant. He merely engineered the repeal of Roe. Which makes it a state and not a Federal issue. Trump's big foe has never been Democrats. It's Washington DC writ large and the 95 year campaign to destroy our Constitutional norms of the founders. It's very tough for people today who are steeped in those politics to understand that. But that's been the unique strength of Trump. |
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Post by majorminor on Sept 18, 2024 8:06:55 GMT -5
"The over supply of money is a FED Reserve thing. And that came out of the pandemic shut-down to help the ease the economic consequences. I really think the POTUS (whomever) has little to do with that."
I think this matters not as a voters issue.
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Post by majorminor on Sept 18, 2024 8:18:46 GMT -5
I disagree with your last sentence. Inflation was mostly a worldwide result of the jolts to the economy caused by the pandemic. The pandemic didn't cause inflation. The response to it did. I totally get the "they did what they had to do" argument as regards the money supply. Maybe it wasn't the thing to do, or maybe it was but was taken too far, but too much money in circulation too fast is why we've had this inflation spike. It's not also all on the Fed. The Biden administration was funneling that newly printed money to the masses hot and heavy as well. Again I'm not really arguing right or wrong but if inflation is an issue that matters to you as a voter this administration was in charge when it became a problem and so they get to own some of that. |
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Post by howard lee on Sept 18, 2024 8:23:30 GMT -5
Sometimes policy positions change. You know how that works; candidates court the voters. They all do it. This wouldn't be the first time it has happened in our history or in current events. For example, Trump waffled on the abortion issue—initially he came out against abortion, then more recently, sort of for, with stipulations. (By the way, his insistence that "the Democrats" are in favor of "killing babies after they're born" is pure horse hockey. In my mind, you know what constitutes killing babies after they're born? School shootings.)
PS: I am not comforted by the fact that Trump has "the concept of a plan." I don't even know what that means. So, there are obviously nerves on both sides of the aisle.
Trump's views on abortion are irrelevant. He merely engineered the repeal of Roe. Which makes it a state and not a Federal issue. [...]
He engineered that by appointing ultra-conservative judges to the US Supreme Court, a branch of the Federal government, who lied about their own plans to knock down Roe Vs. Wade.
Since you have indicated you feel strongly about equivalence, if his views on abortion are irrelevant, then so are Harris's views on hydro fracking, for example. As I see it.
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Post by Shannon on Sept 18, 2024 8:52:07 GMT -5
I think Peter meant people who lean to the Left, politically, here on the Soundhole. That right, Peter?
No, I mean the people who still come here. Any diversity of thought seemed to vanish with COVID. Not quite. I think that most of my views would fall squarely in the conservative camp (or at least what used to be the conservative camp). I know my views on many things are in the minority here. And despite appearances, I have interest in politics. I DON'T have any interest in arguing with friends about politics, though, and I think there are several people on the forum who feel the same. I continue to hope that the things that originally brought us together will continue to do so. So I post much less than I used to, but it isn't because I feel I've been pushed out. It is just that there are fewer threads about music, guitars, and personal lives and more threads about political issues, so there are fewer threads that matter to me. I don't think I'm the only one who feels that way. |
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 18, 2024 9:39:52 GMT -5
Trump's views on abortion are irrelevant. He merely engineered the repeal of Roe. Which makes it a state and not a Federal issue. [...] He engineered that by appointing ultra-conservative judges to the US Supreme Court, a branch of the Federal government, who lied about their own plans to knock down Roe Vs. Wade. Since you have indicated you feel strongly about equivalence, if his views on abortion are irrelevant, then so are Harris's views on hydro fracking, for example. As I see it.
The Supreme Court doesn't have "plans" to do anything. They rule on the cases that come before them. And Harris' views on hydro fracking (and just about everything else) have been rendered irrelevant too with the fall of Chevron. The long era of rule by Executive fiat is dead. If she wants to kill fracking, Congress will have to pass a bill (almost unheard of since the mid-80s at least). And the bill will have to be legitimate legislation, not some tag on in a spending bill. That means it will require a super majority in the Senate. Good luck with that. Face it, while liberals were crying and screaming, "Orange man bad" they missed the actual game. And our Constitutional Republic is now back to its founding. |
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Post by howard lee on Sept 18, 2024 9:47:17 GMT -5
Uncle.
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