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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 8:30:17 GMT -5
Does anyone know of any online source of photos of the D-28 once owned by Clarence White and now played by Tony Rice? I'm looking for front, back, top, bottom, etc. shots.
Thanks.
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Post by millring on Aug 19, 2008 8:35:09 GMT -5
A quick google turns up this picture of the top... Fretboard Journal recently did a multi-page story on the guitar, but it doesn't offer online images. Is this something I could scan and send you, or do you need images immediately?
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Post by millring on Aug 19, 2008 8:36:02 GMT -5
Full frontal:
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Post by billhammond on Aug 19, 2008 8:36:15 GMT -5
Does anyone know of any online source of photos of the D-28 once owned by Clarence White and now played by Tony Rice? I'm looking for front, back, top, bottom, etc. shots. Thanks. Fretboard Journal did a big spread on this guitar and its past. You might see if they have any online shots. Oops, I see Millring already mentioned this. Well, it's still true, dammit.
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Post by millring on Aug 19, 2008 8:37:26 GMT -5
Full frontal with second owner:
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Post by Dub on Aug 19, 2008 9:13:50 GMT -5
I don't know how many owners that guitar has had but Tony is as least the fourth owner. I've read the history of the guitar but don't seem to have it at hand right now. When Clarence White's dad bought it for him it was in serious disrepair and unplayable. That is how the family was able to afford it. They had it repaired and Clarence played it. Still, I've read that it is not the guitar Clarence used most often for most of his work. He used it professionally as a rhythm guitar but played a newer D-18 for most of his lead work. Clarence sold the guitar at some point. I can't remember if it was because he wasn't using it or just needed the money. But when Tony Rice was made aware of it and acquired it, it wasn't from Clarence. And it was again beat up and unplayable. Tony had to have it extensively repaired to be usable. The sound hole had been enlarged before the Whites acquired it. The theory is that the edge of the sound hole was beat up from pick damage and the alteration improved it's appearance. No expert analysis that I've read claims the modification was for any tonal reason. Also, I think the neck was not original and was shorter than the original D-28 neck. Again, it was just incompetent repair, not "improvement." Still, people will pay a lot of money to have guitars built to those specs. Go figure. - Dub
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 13:18:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the photos. In particular, I was looking for photos of the back of the guitar, particularly the back of the peghead. And, to be even more particular, what kind of tuners did it have? I know Waverly now makes an oval button tuner that is supposed to be a copy, but I'm wondering what the originals were, or at least what was on it when White played it.
Isn't Fretboard Journal that big, hefty -- and expensive -- publication? I'd like photos, but I don't really want to shell out any dough....
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Post by billhammond on Aug 19, 2008 13:40:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the photos. In particular, I was looking for photos of the back of the guitar, particularly the back of the peghead. And, to be even more particular, what kind of tuners did it have? I know Waverly now makes an oval button tuner that is supposed to be a copy, but I'm wondering what the originals were, or at least what was on it when White played it. Isn't Fretboard Journal that big, hefty -- and expensive -- publication? I'd like photos, but I don't really want to shell out any dough.... Dave -- A friend of mine at work buys each Fretboard Journal and leaves them for me when he has read them. I have the copy in question. I could bring it to work tomoro -- wanna meet for lunch at the courthouse cafe and borry it?
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Post by dradtke on Aug 19, 2008 14:22:45 GMT -5
Can you competing newspaper guys actually be seen together in public, or does one of you have to wear a disguise?
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Post by billhammond on Aug 19, 2008 14:23:25 GMT -5
Can you competing newspaper guys actually be seen together in public, or does one of you have to wear a disguise? Dave is always in disguise, as Clark Kent.
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Post by Dub on Aug 19, 2008 14:33:17 GMT -5
Sounds as though Bill is your best bet. I thought I'd seen pics on the Web but I can't find them right now. I did find this interesting post in the feed back pages of a Web site called Byrd Watcher. Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 16:16:31 -0800 From: Craig Buzzart (buzco@earthlink.net) Subject: Great Site. Clarence and his Noble Guitars
Way cool site. My name is Craig Buzzart ("Buz") and I was one of those 1960s guys hanging around the Troubador with Gene Clark and Jim McGuinn. (I'm sorry, he played in a band I was in right after he came out from Chicago, and to me he'll always be Jim.) I currently own CB Alyn Guitarworks and am co-owner of Roy Noble Custom Guitars.
When I worked at Roy's in the mid sixties, we rebuilt Clarence White's Martin D-28 with a new top and new neck; that guitar is currently owned by Tony Rice. Roy built two other guitars for Clarence. We have located one of the two guitars, the simple Brazilian one now in the possession of Harry Hopkins in Kentucky.
The other guitar had Gretsch cloud inlays on the fingerboard. We at Roy Noble Guitars are trying to locate that one to take measurements off of. John Delgatto of Sierra records and Michelle Wright have given us the okay to replicate the guitars the guitars Roy built for Clarence. I don't remember reading that the top had been replaced. That makes it hard to understand the enlarged sound hole. I'm thinking perhaps Mr. Buzzart's memory has slipped a little. I'll keep looking. - Dub
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Post by billhammond on Aug 19, 2008 14:36:17 GMT -5
Why would anyone named Jim change their name to ROGER?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 17:30:27 GMT -5
Bill-- I appreciate the offer, and perhaps we can indeed meet at the cafe. The only thing is, I happen to be covering a trial in federal court, so while it's the same building, I've no idea what time the judge will recess for lunch. Perhaps noon. So, with that proviso, we could do it. Thanks.
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Post by billhammond on Aug 19, 2008 17:32:26 GMT -5
Bill-- I appreciate the offer, and perhaps we can indeed meet at the cafe. The only thing is, I happen to be covering a trial in federal court, so while it's the same building, I've no idea what time the judge will recess for lunch. Perhaps noon. So, with that proviso, we could do it. Thanks. Well, I guess we should meet in Moot Court, because I looked for that magazine, and I apparently lent it out to someone, cuz it ain't here.
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Post by millring on Aug 19, 2008 19:44:30 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Aug 19, 2008 19:47:47 GMT -5
If you want any other images scanned, let me know. The mag shows upper bass bout, lower bass bout, close-up bridge, close-up soundhole, treble side back, Lower fretboard/upper bout joint (where Clarence leaned it against a tree and shot it with a pellet gun).
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Post by billhammond on Aug 19, 2008 19:48:28 GMT -5
BAUMAN TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!!
MAH HEE-ROH ...........
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Post by millring on Aug 19, 2008 19:52:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 20:51:16 GMT -5
You da man, Millring. You da MAN.....
Seriously, thanks. Exactly what I was a'lookin' for.
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