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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 21:32:48 GMT -5
Oddly, Washington Week In Review's reporter just said that the reasons for mass exodus from Honduras are different from the reasons for the mass exodus from Guatemala, and different yet from Columbia. That being the case, again, it's almost insane that nobody wonders why this has all happened at once. If the cause of the exodus isn't the same in the countries involved, then how did the coincidence occur? Okay. I'm wondering if Perry's and others theories about a Democrat orchestrated plot is part of the thinking here?
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Post by Doug on Jul 11, 2014 23:08:38 GMT -5
Well while it's evident that Democrat policies created the atmosphere why blame conspiracy for that that can be explained by incompetence. No plot just bad policies. Lest you think I'm piling on the Democrats there was plenty of aiding and abedding going on from the other side in creating bad policies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 23:20:49 GMT -5
Okay. So if it wasn't conspiracy, it was incompetence and they are the only two options. That clears that up to everyone's satisfaction then.
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Post by theevan on Jul 12, 2014 6:35:02 GMT -5
That's why I mused over the Dream Act being a lure to young border-jumpers, but a cursory look seemed to indicate otherwise. But I think John is right to ask why this all of a sudden? The troubles in El Salvador, Guatemala, et al has been going on for a time now.
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Post by epaul on Jul 12, 2014 8:43:16 GMT -5
Maybe the movement in people has been a slow, steady increase, and it is the reporting/awareness/tipping point aspect that makes it seem like an "all of a sudden" deal.
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Post by millring on Jul 12, 2014 9:22:37 GMT -5
Okay. I got it from the horse's mouth (my brother in law <bless his heart> who has it on authority from several blogs he's been following. Additionally, my nephew posted to say he'd been observing the same thing. And yes, I'm dying a little inside)...
Apparently, what is happening is that the US government is recruiting a force of foreign youth to turn into a militia to attack our own population. They need a foreign force because they fear that soldiers who are born and raised here will find it difficult to fire on their fellow citizens, but foreigners -- especially those young ones, properly trained, will have no such compunction.
God, how I wish I was making this up.
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Post by Russell Letson on Jul 12, 2014 11:15:57 GMT -5
They need a foreign force because they fear that soldiers who are born and raised here will find it difficult to fire on their fellow citizens So that's why the Confederacy had to raise that army of mercenaries. . . . And why the Union had to do the same in response. (My native-born great-great grandfather must have spent the war on garrison duty.) (Apparently campus police do not suffer from any such problems, being composed entirely of sociopathic children plucked from Dickensian orphanages.)
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Post by Doug on Jul 12, 2014 12:26:23 GMT -5
I don't remember armies of merks in the War Between the States but there were some individuals on both sides. While not merks there were large numbers of just in the country immigrants.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 12:50:10 GMT -5
John! Telll your kin to quit spilling the beans!! I'd hate to have to come kick their door in a 3 am myself. I kinda' like my sleep.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 15:11:50 GMT -5
There is an article at fivethirtyeight.com about trends in immigration. Quite interesting. Included is the following. - "In other words, the number of undocumented immigrants remains high, but illegal immigration — the number of new undocumented workers entering the country each year — has fallen close to zero. On a net basis — people entering minus those leaving or being deported — illegal immigration was probably negative between 2007 and 2012. The question of what to do about existing undocumented immigrants remains highly relevant. There are nearly 12 million of them here, close to an all-time high. But at least for much of the past few years, the issue of securing the border has been all but moot: Between 2007 and 2012, more undocumented workers left the country than entered it.7 Whether that trend will continue is less clear. In recent months, tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors, most of them from Central America, have crossed the Mexican border. And it’s possible that as the job market rebounds, so will the number of people trying to enter the country illegally. But there’s so far little evidence of a more widespread resurgence in illegal border crossings." fivethirtyeight.com/features/immigration-is-changing-much-more-than-the-immigration-debate/
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Post by millring on Jul 12, 2014 15:37:43 GMT -5
John! Telll your kin to quit spilling the beans!! I'd hate to have to come kick their door in a 3 am myself. I kinda' like my sleep. Are you requesting this as the soldier you pretend to be, or the German I know you are?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 18:25:11 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Jul 12, 2014 19:07:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 19:20:09 GMT -5
Come to Kern County where I live.
The Hispanic/ Latino/ Mexican/Honduran/ Guatemalan/El Salvadoran population has exploded since 2000. My school went from 75% Hispanic to 95% since then. Most of the kids were born here, I suspect that 50% or more of the parents were born in Mexico, and 50% of those are not citizens.
Kern also has 9 different prisons, with some dedicated to Hispanic prisoners. These prisons seem to have become boarding/ finishing schools for Latino gangs.
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Post by millring on Jul 12, 2014 19:41:36 GMT -5
Warsaw is a thousand miles from the border, but we are 30% Hispanic. But that's only half of the story. Our high school is nearing 50% and our grade schools are closing in on 70%.
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Post by Marshall on Jul 12, 2014 22:40:09 GMT -5
Okay. I got it from the horse's mouth (my brother in law <bless his heart> who has it on authority from several blogs he's been following. Additionally, my nephew posted to say he'd been observing the same thing. And yes, I'm dying a little inside)... Apparently, what is happening is that the US government is recruiting a force of foreign youth to turn into a militia to attack our own population. They need a foreign force because they fear that soldiers who are born and raised here will find it difficult to fire on their fellow citizens, but foreigners -- especially those young ones, properly trained, will have no such compunction. God, how I wish I was making this up. . . . , please tell me that's a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 22:57:59 GMT -5
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Post by Cornflake on Jul 13, 2014 11:29:46 GMT -5
As the election neared in 2008, there was a run on ammunition. I asked a friend whose politics differed from mine why. The answer was that if Obama didn't win, the "dark people" were expected to take to the streets, with guns, to seize power. She obviously did not think this was a joke. Obama won and we were spared an insurrection.
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Post by Doug on Jul 13, 2014 11:49:35 GMT -5
ammunition is still in short supply. Better than it was the over buying in 08 recovered on the shelves by 10. This time only partial recovery by mid terms.
There is still a guy on craigslist trying to sell those ten dollar 550s of .22 floor sweepings for $80. Even with the price boost they are going for 22.95 when you can find them.
Panic buying can make you money or loose you a bunch of money. I remember SKS (cheapest assault rifle)free with a case of ammo. 4 yrs later going for almost a thousand and any mid range assault rifle (AKs) hitting 2500. Four later those same AKs were going for 600 bunch of people got creamed. Today even with the panic buyers still out there I can buy a AR-15 clone at Wally World for about 800. Panic buying in the gun market is crazy.
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Post by millring on Jul 13, 2014 11:58:49 GMT -5
The kind of thing you might wonder about out loud with a close friend or family member (because they would understand the nature of your wondering aloud) are now broadcast without embarrassment on the internet.
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