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Post by aquaduct on Oct 15, 2014 14:52:40 GMT -5
They need to change the name of ebola to really get people to pay attention.
They should call it Climate Change.
Then the administration would be pissing themselves to keep it out of this country.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 14:58:29 GMT -5
Well if they did that, the Republicans would be saying it isn't real. ::rimshot::
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Post by millring on Oct 15, 2014 15:10:19 GMT -5
We can just be thankful that this is a Democrat president. At least it gives us a fighting chance if drastic measures like cutting off travelers from Africa become necessary. If a Republican even suggested that, it would be dismissed as racially motivated.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 15, 2014 15:31:15 GMT -5
Well if they did that, the Republicans would be saying it isn't real. ::rimshot:: Yeah, but a couple thousand actual deaths could finally provide genuine scientific consensus.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 15, 2014 15:42:39 GMT -5
Well if they did that, the Republicans would be saying it isn't real. ::rimshot:: Exactly. Politics today (and maybe always) can be reduced to "Give me power to protect you from the thing that I say you should fear. Never mind what the other guy tells you to fear. He's full of crap/in denial/stupid/etc." That's all of it. Personally, I've learned my lesson. I'm not worried about any of it.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 15, 2014 15:44:03 GMT -5
Well if they did that, the Republicans would be saying it isn't real. ::rimshot:: Yeah, but a couple thousand actual deaths could finally provide genuine scientific consensus. And if that happens, the natural responses of people (mostly staying away from public spaces until the epidemic blows over) will solve it.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 15, 2014 15:49:40 GMT -5
Anyway, my wife and I are in agreement, which is increasingly rare these days. To coin a British phrase, it's just barking mad to allow confirmed patients here, and really ill-advised to allow flights in from the areas of current outbreak. I tend to agree. But what interests me most is why the government isn't taking those steps. I mean, I'm sure if you ran a poll, you'd get something like 90% of Americans saying "Well, duh. Of course we should restrict travel from highly-infected areas." Why not? I get the arguments against such a ban. Personally, I don't think they are all that strong, but in any case none of them are of the "if we ban travel from ebolaland the sky will fall" variety. And I don't understand why the government (more particularly, THIS president who is sinking in the polls) wouldn't take this obvious and highly popular step. What is the benefit to him of resisting public opinion? Which is to say, even if its an idea with a net-neutral effect, it seems like an easy and popular thing to do.
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Post by Chesapeake on Oct 15, 2014 16:05:28 GMT -5
This morning CNN was all over the news that a second health-care worker has been diagnosed with Ebola, calling it a "stunning" and "blockbuster" development. This, despite the fact that top health-care officials AND just about every talking-head that's appeared on CNN about this have predicted that there would be more victims, and not to be surprised when they begin turning up. Generally speaking I praise CNN for how well and thoroughly they have covered the outbreak, but this smacks of juicing up a new development for the sake of keeping people hooked on the adrenaline that such over-the-top pronouncements produce. There's a fine line between following a story and pimping it. I have no patience for press critics (including the general public) who are so quick to accuse the media of the latter; but this seems a self-evident case of pimping for the sake of ratings. CNN needs to take a deep breath and consider whether in their zeal to fulfill their eternal promises of BREAKING NEWS (how much "breaking news" can there really be in a 24-hour news cycle, day after day, after all) that they aren't actually misleading the public. C'mon guys, it's scary enough without your hyperbole.
Rant over now.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 15, 2014 16:30:45 GMT -5
I have to go to Peoria for business next week. The first Dallas patient flew through Dulles airport where I'm booked to fly from. This second health care worker flew from Ohio to Texas a couple days ago.
My wife doesn't want me to fly next week. It's 12 hours to drive.
I am so screwed.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 15, 2014 16:38:01 GMT -5
The "sexy nurse" costume thing is going a different direction this year...
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Post by Doug on Oct 15, 2014 17:05:18 GMT -5
Politics today (and maybe always) can be reduced to "Give me power to protect you from the thing that I say you should fear. Never mind what the other guy tells you to fear. " That's not a definition of politics but a definition of government.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 15, 2014 17:10:24 GMT -5
Politics today (and maybe always) can be reduced to "Give me power to protect you from the thing that I say you should fear. Never mind what the other guy tells you to fear. " That's not a definition of politics but a definition of government. Perhaps. What I find funny is that the Centers for Disease Control has a budget of a bit over $11 billion annually, but when things get tough, the very first thing they say is that they would be more effective if they only had more budget. So I guess the message is $11 billion for the CDC is nice, but if you want to actually, you know, control disease, that's going to cost you extra.
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Post by millring on Oct 15, 2014 17:13:29 GMT -5
What's really weird about this outbreak is that the insistence that we focus on not become hysterical is actually premature and getting as much or more ink than the outbreak itself. www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/health/ebolas-other-contagious-threat-hysteria.html I don't know how it will play out, but the ridiculers on the left have already staked their territory -- fear of ebola is silly. And the ridiculers on the right are fanning whatever hysteria there might be out there.
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Post by Doug on Oct 15, 2014 17:22:05 GMT -5
I"m amazed that the right isn't pushing closing the southern border. Seem like a perfect opportunity to attack our open border problem. That's what the old man tables around here are saying.
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Post by factorychef on Oct 15, 2014 17:26:27 GMT -5
Did they eat any brownies
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Post by millring on Oct 15, 2014 17:26:51 GMT -5
I'm more amazed that it's political. To be honest, the fact that the right is trying to cash in on it is one of the main things that makes me tend to doubt the seriousness of the threat. What's more curious is how conflicted the left is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 17:58:11 GMT -5
There are deluded people who are moronically protesting about President Obola being to blame on their Facebook and those are people who have lost their rational, critical minds.
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Post by theevan on Oct 15, 2014 18:02:42 GMT -5
OK. Well all the "it's SO hard to catch" meme seemed to be to be trying too hard. I got suspicious. I'm not going to say that these developments confirm my suspicions, but they sure seemed to be trying too hard.
Then again, mass hysteria could be worse than the disease.
I just prefer to hear the real poop. Just lay it out. Some people will act accordingly. The rest won't. Maybe they weed themselves out...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 18:56:08 GMT -5
Chilibill posted a thing on his FB calling Michele and Barack Obama the "Ebolas". What edifying political debate!
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Post by millring on Oct 15, 2014 19:01:13 GMT -5
Dar told me that CBS News reported tonight that the second confirmed case contracted here was a nurse who traveled to Ohio WITH a fever AFTER she contacted the CDC and told them that she had a fever. They told her it would be okay to travel.
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