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Post by casualplayerpaul on May 14, 2018 10:15:25 GMT -5
I'd love one of these:
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Post by mrpaul on May 14, 2018 10:32:10 GMT -5
I played a lot of Martins before deciding on this one. No problem on the sig, it's so indecipherable I could probably tell folks it's mine. BTW, Who's Paul Tandberg?
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Post by Russell Letson on May 14, 2018 11:06:53 GMT -5
Oh would you like to buy a guitar just because it's named for a star? Would it play real good in a bar? Or would you rather get one cheap?
The name on the headstock's a familiar one, he's made lots of records and he's fun. You think that the magic's in that signature, but without it the axe is just nice furniture. So if gigs are what you're hoping you will reap, just buy a Takamine cheap.
'Cause on the stage you can't see the name and all the guitars look just the same, and endorsements are a mug's game. So if you want to take that leap, just go and find one that is cheap.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 19:15:27 GMT -5
I'd consider an Edward Hopper, since I already have a BK Hooper. I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a BK Whopper today.
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Post by PaulKay on May 14, 2018 19:43:04 GMT -5
Dykes has just about the worst tone of any well known fingerstylist I can imagine. If he hit upon a signature guitar that sounds good, it has to be by total accident. Yes, I think his piezo heavy tone is common. But Godin and even the Sands guitar have piezo saddle solution for pickus. But this guitar has a DI inside that includes a tape saturation effect with front controls. That is really an electric guitar distortion effect. So acoustic tone may not be high on his list.
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Post by xyrn on May 14, 2018 21:55:43 GMT -5
Are we talking about actual autographs or replicated logo signatures of famous players?
I wouldn't pay a cent more for a logo signature than I would for another identically appointed guitar by the same maker (of course, certain features may only be available on the artist model).
I *may* pay more for a guitar with a real autograph on it; depending on many variables such as: would I desire the guitar even sans autograph, is it in playing condition, does the placement of the autograph prevent use of the guitar due to risk to the autograph through use, how much do I like the artist, how much money are we talking and so on.
However, if the artist in question is David Gilmour my answer is: do you want one or both of my kidneys? 🤔
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Post by Tamarack on May 14, 2018 23:27:32 GMT -5
I'm usually unimpressed with artist's signatures on guitars, inside on the label, inlaid on the fretboard or autographed with a Sharpie.
There are a few artist model guitars that have appealing cosmetics, in particular the Martin Peter Rowan model, which has phases of the moon inlaid as position markers on the fretboard; and the Arlo Guthrie model, with circles and arrows inlaid on the fretboard, sure to elicit a chuckle from baby boomers.
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Post by PaulKay on May 15, 2018 9:17:34 GMT -5
Are we talking about actual autographs or replicated logo signatures of famous players? I wouldn't pay a cent more for a logo signature than I would for another identically appointed guitar by the same maker (of course, certain features may only be available on the artist model). I *may* pay more for a guitar with a real autograph on it; depending on many variables such as: would I desire the guitar even sans autograph, is it in playing condition, does the placement of the autograph prevent use of the guitar due to risk to the autograph through use, how much do I like the artist, how much money are we talking and so on. However, if the artist in question is David Gilmour my answer is: do you want one or both of my kidneys? 🤔 In this case, the artist name is on the headstock and there are quite a few special features that other Godin models don’t have: 1. wider neck than 1 11/16. 1.715 to be exact. Not 1 3/4, but close. 2. Microphone in addition to the piezo pickup. 3. DI on board. I assume an XLR connector. 4. a tape saturation (distortion) effect on board. More electric than acoustic when used. So if you want a steel string Godin with a better pickup system and fingerstyle friendly neck width, the signature is only game in town. I just won’t pay extra just because of the signature. They are marked up $500 for the signature aspect.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on May 15, 2018 9:43:49 GMT -5
The Julian Lage Collings looks pretty sweet. As does the Eric Skye SCGC.
Mike
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Post by PaulKay on May 19, 2018 11:50:53 GMT -5
So it appears that the tape saturation effect is from an onboard version of the LR Baggs Session DI. Apparently these were considered an acoustic instrument effect to fatten the sound of an acoustic pickup. On this guitar there is a single slider to mix in the saturation and compression level. The original DI pedal was very subtle in its affect on the tone. Just fatter and warmer with harmonics added to the tone as it entered the saturation point.
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Post by jdd2 on May 19, 2018 16:56:45 GMT -5
... As does the Eric Skye SCGC. Mike Wasn't he m7b5 on the old forum, or was that someone else?
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Post by coachdoc on May 20, 2018 9:34:25 GMT -5
I'm noticing there is a 1/4" Jack and an XLR out. Do they both go post effect or dry? And... Is there a pedal such as this that can also provide phantom power to a mic? That would make it a mini mixer, I guess.
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Post by kenlarsson on May 20, 2018 11:17:57 GMT -5
I considered a Picasso but it's way too pricey and the setup looks way off.
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Post by Russell Letson on May 20, 2018 11:28:19 GMT -5
Michael Dunn has playable versions:
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Post by PaulKay on May 21, 2018 16:23:08 GMT -5
Michael Dunn has playable versions: I have one of his Weissenborns Looks like this one. Great instruments.
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Post by Marshall on May 21, 2018 16:27:49 GMT -5
So it appears that the tape saturation effect is from an onboard version of the LR Baggs Session DI. Apparently these were considered an acoustic instrument effect to fatten the sound of an acoustic pickup. On this guitar there is a single slider to mix in the saturation and compression level. The original DI pedal was very subtle in its affect on the tone. Just fatter and warmer with harmonics added to the tone as it entered the saturation point. You made me buy a Session DI. Sounds pretty good in the videos. Does compression. Works on battery, wall wort, or phantom power. Has XLR out or 1/4" output. What's not to like? (Except it doesn't have EQ).
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Post by PaulKay on May 21, 2018 20:02:07 GMT -5
I ended up buying the Godin guitar after all. I am curious about the session effect and will get a chance to try it in a couple days. The Godin does have 3 band EQ on board as well.
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Post by Marshall on May 22, 2018 17:50:51 GMT -5
So it appears that the tape saturation effect is from an onboard version of the LR Baggs Session DI. The Session DI came today. I've run it through my amp at home and A-B'd it with the Zoom A3 (and compression pedal) and I think it like the Session best. And it's very user friendly, having a 9V battery, or a 9V wall wart jack, or taking phantom power. really versatile and simple. And the sound is VERY impressive. I'll take it out to an open mic tonight at a big venue and give it live test. Cool !
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Post by Dub on May 22, 2018 19:49:18 GMT -5
I have a Venue DI that I like a lot. I’m guessing it has similar characteristics.
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Post by coachdoc on May 22, 2018 20:18:14 GMT -5
I have a session. I had a venue. Different beast, and I miss the boost from the venue.
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