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Post by Marshall on Oct 23, 2021 16:57:01 GMT -5
As for the opening question, we have our problems. It strikes me that most of them are no more ominous than the problems previous generations have faced. The only reasonably plausible way I can see collapse happening is if climate change causes crop failures and other catastrophic events, which may well happen, particularly if we continue doing nothing except exacerbating the problem. Crop failures and droughts and such will affect other countries more than the US. Subsequent World unrest may drag us into difficult situations, though. |
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Post by theevan on Oct 23, 2021 17:13:15 GMT -5
As for the opening question, we have our problems. It strikes me that most of them are no more ominous than the problems previous generations have faced. The only reasonably plausible way I can see collapse happening is if climate change causes crop failures and other catastrophic events, which may well happen, particularly if we continue doing nothing except exacerbating the problem. The reason I'd disagree, Don, is the mechanisms and technologies are in place to make a crisis more worldwide than ever before. I'm talking possibilities, not certainties. Universal reliance on tech could mean near-total paralysis of supply lines, crisis management, grid, on and on. That's just an example. |
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Post by Cornflake on Oct 23, 2021 17:35:11 GMT -5
"Crop failures and droughts and such will affect other countries more than the US. Subsequent World unrest may drag us into difficult situations, though."
True, Marshall, including the one to our immediate south. But the fact that others will have it worse doesn't mean it won't be bad enough here.
"The reason I'd disagree, Don, is the mechanisms and technologies are in place to make a crisis more worldwide than ever before. I'm talking possibilities, not certainties. Universal reliance on tech could mean near-total paralysis of supply lines, crisis management, grid, on and on. That's just an example."
I agree with that, Evan. It could be a major problem. But so was the Depression and it didn't bring total collapse.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 23, 2021 17:41:59 GMT -5
Now that Biden's racked up more COVID deaths than Trump, I think COVID's well on the way to having completely burned itself out politically. And I've never believed in the complete collapse into fascism. 50 large independent states with an intended anyways weak Federal apparatus makes a dictator remote. I personally think the self inflicted wound of forced vaccinations and the resulting economic chaos is the beginning of the end. And I think the weaponizing of the DOJ against parents whose kids are being subjected to leftist school indoctrination as graphically witnessed here in Virginia IS the end. Particularly with the guy in a skirt that's now raped two ninth grade girls in restrooms. Mama bear's pissed and that won't end well for the woke crowd. An update from Loudoun county, Virginia. Apparently an email from the Loudoun County school superintendent to the school board last May after the first rape of a 9th grade girl by a claimed transgender boy in a skirt has surfaced telling the school board that the allegations were not true (contrary to the rape kit evidence). The creep ass transgender boy was then transferred to another school where he then did the same thing to another girl earlier this fall. The governor's election is a little more than a week away. |
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Post by james on Oct 23, 2021 18:38:12 GMT -5
Whether a transgender student was the perpetrator of sexual assaults has not, it seems, been established. "Transgender" is not the same, for example as boy wearing a skirt.
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Post by jdd2 on Oct 23, 2021 19:15:51 GMT -5
Tho I have wondered how california ag will be continue with its water/drought/fire situation, so maybe a 'crop failure' there, the thing that will seem more spontaneous is the fracturing of the industrialized food system--its inability to juggle several changes at once. I think there was a glimpse of this when corona hit meat packing plants. Upstream, family farmers confinement operators, who are deeply in hock having adapted their manufacturing to company/customer requirements, suddenly have a large, worthless bunch of stock and nobody to sell to.
Add something else in at the same time, which may be ag problems in california, something like the grid failure in texas, bird/swine flu necessitating a big cull, or perhaps a widespread salmonella surprise in supermarkets, and bingo.
No need for it to be something that everyone will say, 'oh, climate change'.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 23, 2021 19:24:16 GMT -5
Whether a transgender student was the perpetrator of sexual assaults has not, it seems, been established. "Transgender" is not the same, for example as boy wearing a skirt. To be clear, it is clearly established that a male claiming to be transgender (whatever that absurdity actually means) entered a girl's restroom wearing a skirt and forcibly raped, as witnessed by a positve rape kit demonstrating clearly his X and Y chromosomes proving he is both a male and guilty as hell, a ninth grade girl. After which he was simply transferred to another school where he went on to do it again. The follow on is that the girl's father and his wife tried to attend a school board meeting to ask for action and some libtard bitch got in his face threatening to ruin his business and family and when he lost his temper he was jumped by 6 or 7 sherriffs deputies and dragged off to jail, losing his pants on camera and leaving in his underwear. Which ultimately led to one of the NASB executives working with the White House and without consulting the NASB membership to craft a letter to the Attorney General of the United damn States who then wrote a letter stating clearly that the DOJ is going to be investigating and allegations of threatened violence against school boards, who in this case conveniently used the mugging of a father of a raped girl to pass an open "genderless" restroom policy. This past week Merrick Garland was completely humiliated as being either functionally useless or stupid or both and the NASB has been forced to retract thier original request and apologize. All this to try to force people to recognize the absurd notion that there are more than 2 genders and they all need to be catered to in ridiculous ways. To me, it's the beginning of the end of progressive politics and the mainstream media's lock on information in this country. And good riddance. |
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Post by james on Oct 23, 2021 19:35:08 GMT -5
I don't typically ignore transphobia. I'll now continue not responding to you.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 23, 2021 19:42:19 GMT -5
I don't typically ignore transphobia. I'll now continue not responding to you. Transphobia has nothing to do with it. |
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Post by epaul on Oct 23, 2021 23:00:41 GMT -5
Rape is a crime. If a rape kit indicated rape and this kid was named by the victim as the rapist and genetic evidence supported her claim, then a hush, hush cover up by the school and a transfer to another school is not a plausible outcome. Rape is a crime, and being a juvenile does not excuse it, not in any state, any county, any city or any town. There would be criminal proceedings and there would be a civil suit.
And if the claim is the kid then raped someone again at a different school and is still is not in detention and facing a trial, there is something seriously amiss, and it has to be with the telling of the tale, not the legal system.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 24, 2021 7:10:14 GMT -5
And if the claim is the kid then raped someone again at a different school and is still is not in detention and facing a trial, there is something seriously amiss, and it has to be with the telling of the tale, not the legal system. Nope. Straight up fact. And it has to do with twisted corruption in the school system, not the legal system (although the top Loudoun County prosecutor is a real Soros funded prize too). But I'm sure it's been dutifully reported in whatever media you prize. |
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Post by millring on Oct 24, 2021 7:57:15 GMT -5
The very Alfred E Newmans not worried now and ridiculing those who might be are the very ones suggesting that we already had just a few short years ago.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 24, 2021 8:14:45 GMT -5
Have a curd burger /cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/UVDUA2UAQ5BWXJZZHHJRY7RIVA.jpg) |
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Post by epaul on Oct 24, 2021 11:05:11 GMT -5
And if the claim is the kid then raped someone again at a different school and is still is not in detention and facing a trial, there is something seriously amiss, and it has to be with the telling of the tale, not the legal system. Nope. Straight up fact. And it has to do with twisted corruption in the school system, not the legal system (although the top Loudoun County prosecutor is a real Soros funded prize too). But I'm sure it's been dutifully reported in whatever media you prize. I checked. Multiple sources (ABC/CBS/NBC) And it's as you said. Unfucking believable. The individual was charged and arrested for rape, released by authorities while awaiting the processing of DNA evidence/rape kit, transferred to a different school where the individual was charged and arrested again for the alleged rape of a second victim. There will be a trial and there is a civil suit in progress. I was skeptical. But, the above events occurred as Pete related. Unfucking believable. |
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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 24, 2021 12:22:20 GMT -5
Nope. Straight up fact. And it has to do with twisted corruption in the school system, not the legal system (although the top Loudoun County prosecutor is a real Soros funded prize too). But I'm sure it's been dutifully reported in whatever media you prize. I checked. Multiple sources (ABC/CBS/NBC) And it's as you said. Unfucking believable. The individual was charged and arrested for rape, released by authorities while awaiting the processing of DNA evidence/rape kit, transferred to a different school where the individual was charged and arrested again for the alleged rape of a second victim. There will be a trial and there is a civil suit in progress. I was skeptical. But, the above events occurred as Pete related. Unfucking believable. I'm never sure with you anymore. Is it the facts of the case or that Peter was correct that you find "Unfucking believable"? |
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Post by epaul on Oct 24, 2021 13:36:05 GMT -5
The case. The individual, the school, the release, the allowance of a recurrence to occur in a different school given the on-going case against the individual. Unfucking believable refers not to what but how and why.
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Post by theevan on Oct 24, 2021 14:58:41 GMT -5
The case. The individual, the school, the release, the allowance of a recurrence to occur in a different school given the on-going case against the individual. Unfucking believable refers not to what but how and why. And the denials and cover up. Reminiscent of catholic scandals. Think about the fact you never heard of this awful story. And why. |
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 24, 2021 15:42:44 GMT -5
Yeah. We're about 30 miles west of Loudoun. My daughter works for Loudoun County as a social worker. It's the richest county in the country due to the Federal Government (nearby Faquier is old Virginia money and horses and polo and the like). It's full of wineries. We've made good bank playing those over the years.
This story is even more significant because it involves all the evil of the current progressive political agenda. CRT, BLM, Hienz 57 genders, masked kids, distance learning, cancelled school years and extraciricular activities, etc. The Superintendent is in really hot water right now because he lied to the school board in writing about the rape because the school board was in the process of voting for open genderless restrooms and now that letter became public yesterday. The Republican Governor candidate, Youngkin, pretty much owns the Democrat, McCauliff, right now since McCauliff was stupid enough to say on camera in the last debate that parents have no business telling the school board professionals how to run their kids education. Obama, Abrams, Biden, Harris, and others have been here campaigning for McCauliff but he just continues to suck.
We here in Virginia started into this era of egregious government overreach by declaring 85% of the state 2nd Amendment sanctuaries in 2019 and it looks like we'll kick off the end of this crap a week from Tuesday.
Huzzah!
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