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Post by dradtke on Jan 30, 2022 12:27:37 GMT -5
Interesting article comparing Spotify with Bandcamp. Garnet Rogers posted this on Facebook.
I wasn't familiar with Bandcamp, but I'll spend some time there now.
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Jan 30, 2022 13:24:51 GMT -5
Post by james on Jan 30, 2022 13:24:51 GMT -5
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Jan 30, 2022 14:47:14 GMT -5
Post by Marshall on Jan 30, 2022 14:47:14 GMT -5
Interesting article comparing Spotify with Bandcamp. Garnet Rogers posted this on Facebook.
I wasn't familiar with Bandcamp, but I'll spend some time there now. Yeah, put my muse-ick up on Bandcamp. Available for download. I know many others who have also. That's where I got the idea. But I never thought of streaming music in general off Bandcamp. I think I should start that. It's a platform for the artists.
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Jan 31, 2022 9:51:41 GMT -5
Post by Marshall on Jan 31, 2022 9:51:41 GMT -5
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Jan 31, 2022 9:57:53 GMT -5
Post by james on Jan 31, 2022 9:57:53 GMT -5
Neil Young's music remains available from companies that don't spread dangerous conspiracy theories and Covid 19 misinformation to a huge number of podcast listeners.
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Jan 31, 2022 10:00:09 GMT -5
Post by howard lee on Jan 31, 2022 10:00:09 GMT -5
This is a mixed metaphor and equivocation. Young isn't suggesting anyone censor Rogan. He just doesn't want to share an Internet platform with someone who is disseminating what he considers to be misinformation, or support the platform that allows it.
"It's not personal, it's business." —Michael Corleone
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Jan 31, 2022 10:27:18 GMT -5
Post by billhammond on Jan 31, 2022 10:27:18 GMT -5
By Helen Coster / Reuters
Podcaster Joe Rogan has apologized and pledged more balance on his show amid a backlash against COVID-19 misinformation on the streaming service Spotify that wiped more than $2 billion off its market value last week.
Spotify said it would add a content advisory to any episode with discussion of COVID to try to quell the controversy, a first step into the field of content moderation that other platforms such as Facebook have found challenging and costly.
Spotify shares were up 2% in pre-market trading on Monday but still at their lowest since May 2020, after the controversy and a broader sell-off of tech stocks in January eroded more than a quarter of its value.
Rogan's show, The Joe Rogan Experience, has been the most listened-to podcast on Spotify and is central to its plan to expand beyond music and take on rivals such as Apple and Amazon for a share of the podcasting market.
In a 10-minute Instagram video post on Sunday evening, Rogan apologized to Spotify for the backlash but defended inviting contentious guests.
"If I pissed you off, I'm sorry," Rogan said. "I will do my best to try to balance out these more controversial viewpoints with other people's perspectives so we can maybe find a better point of view."
Rogan is a prominent vaccine skeptic and his views on vaccines and government mandates to control the spread of the virus alienated prominent figures from singer-songwriter Neil Young to guitarist Nils Lofgren to best-selling U.S. professor and author Brené Brown.
Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell also asked for her music to be taken Spotify, citing a letter from hundreds of medical professionals urging the platform to prevent Rogan spreading falsehoods on the pandemic.
Spotify, which reports its quarterly earnings on Wednesday, has spent billions to build its podcast business and currently has over 3 million titles on its platform. Although it has an exclusive license to distribute the podcast, Rogan himself owns the show.
Spotify CEO Daniel Ek said late on Sunday that he might disagree with the views of some individuals on the platform but that it was "important to me that we don't take on the position of being content censor."
Its new policies include adding an advisory to any pandemic-related podcast that will direct listeners to a COVID-19 hub containing information from medical and health experts, as well as links to authoritative sources.
But the task of content moderation that it has now been dragged into is very different from removing songs with copyright violations, a job that Spotify is familiar with.
The social media giant Facebook also had to give up its opposition to deciding what content people see, and has deployed thousands of content moderators as well as artificial intelligence to block hate speech and fake news on its platform.
With Rogan apologizing, the current controversy might blow over, but it is unlikely to be the last that Spotify will face.
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Jan 31, 2022 10:32:32 GMT -5
Post by james on Jan 31, 2022 10:32:32 GMT -5
Strictly speaking, distribution and sales outlets for an artist's stuff is usually a decision for their label. Young has thanked Warner Bros.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 31, 2022 13:13:54 GMT -5
"It's not personal, it's business." —Michael Corleone [/div][/quote] It's not social commentary, it's humor.(I'm OK with Young's decision. We all make choices. I just thought this was funny)
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Jan 31, 2022 13:22:07 GMT -5
Post by howard lee on Jan 31, 2022 13:22:07 GMT -5
"It's not personal, it's business." —Michael Corleone [/div][/quote] It's not social commentary, it's humor.(I'm OK with Young's decision. We all make choices. I just thought this was funny) [/quote][/div]
Marshall, my impression is that it was created by someone who disagrees with Young's decision. Unless, like a double-negative, it was created by someone who was trying to make fun of someone who disagrees with Young's decision. If that's the case, the point was lost on me.
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Post by drlj on Jan 31, 2022 13:29:23 GMT -5
"It's not personal, it's business." —Michael Corleone [/div][/quote] It's not social commentary, it's humor.(I'm OK with Young's decision. We all make choices. I just thought this was funny) [/quote] I say ban Marshall from the forum. Drive him out! No more sunburst trouble makers! Hire a guy named Ray to do it so we can say Ray Bans Marshall.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 31, 2022 14:12:28 GMT -5
I’m Ordering you a Navajo White guitar.
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Post by james on Jan 31, 2022 17:05:32 GMT -5
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Jan 31, 2022 18:24:54 GMT -5
Post by aquaduct on Jan 31, 2022 18:24:54 GMT -5
Well, that was stupid. The nonsensical bullshit from CNN to open it was rich. No asshole McWeeney, teachers in Virginia work for parents in Virginia and the Governor in Virginia. They rule. Period. Don't want to comply? Quit. Get another job if you think you can. Then tell your new boss you don't want to do what he or she hired you to do. See how long you last.
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Jan 31, 2022 21:37:19 GMT -5
Post by John B on Jan 31, 2022 21:37:19 GMT -5
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Jan 31, 2022 21:45:30 GMT -5
Post by aquaduct on Jan 31, 2022 21:45:30 GMT -5
THE CNN QUOTE WAS SATIRE? ON WHAT PLANET?
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Post by millring on Feb 1, 2022 6:09:11 GMT -5
(I'm OK with Young's decision. We all make choices. I just thought this was funny) Jonathan Haidt would say that your error was in being sacrilegious. Once an issue is sacred, there is no humor allowed. The Covid narrative is sacred. It exactly tracks with religious fundamentalism. Only the right people are allowed to make observations about it, and the dogma that surrounds it is air-tight.
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Post by jdd2 on Feb 1, 2022 7:02:35 GMT -5
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Post by theevan on Feb 1, 2022 8:01:19 GMT -5
. Rock of Ages, Clef for me....
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Feb 1, 2022 12:53:18 GMT -5
Post by Marshall on Feb 1, 2022 12:53:18 GMT -5
(I'm OK with Young's decision. We all make choices. I just thought this was funny) Jonathan Haidt would say that your error was in being sacrilegious. Once an issue is sacred, there is no humor allowed. The Covid narrative is sacred. It exactly tracks with religious fundamentalism. Only the right people are allowed to make observations about it, and the dogma that surrounds it is air-tight.
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