Tamarack
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Post by Tamarack on Jan 28, 2022 8:31:57 GMT -5
Spotify Celebrates 100th Dollar to MusiciansI use Spotify sparingly on a shared account with our son. I would like to get away from streaming entirely, but it looks like we will eventually have no choice. Like many or most SoundHooligans, I still have an extensive CD collection (which will eventually deteriorate) I would like to abandon Spotify over the Joe Rogan issue. As a private business, Spotify has the right to put whomever they wish on their platform. As a private consumer, I have the right not to do business with Spotify.
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Jan 28, 2022 11:57:36 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on Jan 28, 2022 11:57:36 GMT -5
I don’t use Spotify. My neighborhood friends all do. They have those smart speakers and play Spotify throughout their houses. I have antiquated receivers and speakers in the main rooms and play music off my phone via Bluetooth. I buy music from iTunes as mp3s. And many times I use Audacity to record audio off cool videos I find on YouTube and turn them into mp3s. Like the Foy Vance video I posted earlier. Those are freebies but I try to visit the artist’s website and buy something in return.
My “favorites” playlist is up to 18 hours of music I can play on shuffle and there’s not a dog in the bunch.
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Post by gbacklin on Jan 28, 2022 11:58:22 GMT -5
And that is what makes this country great, you have the choice. Everytime this topic comes up of government should intervene, it reminds me of Crossfire 1986 with Frank Zappa on the government and censorship of music.
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Jan 28, 2022 12:00:22 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on Jan 28, 2022 12:00:22 GMT -5
I have gone thru my old CD collection and loaded them into iTunes as MP3s. I have an old CD/DVD disc player that connects to a computer via USB. That’s how I loaded the CDs into iTunes.
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Post by gbacklin on Jan 28, 2022 12:13:40 GMT -5
I have gone thru my old CD collection and loaded them into iTunes as MP3s. I have an old CD/DVD disc player that connects to a computer via USB. That’s how I loaded the CDs into iTunes. In case you didn't know, the Apple codec AAC, which is an codec option on importing music, is a better quality than mp3. Then again, it all depends on what you are listening through also. I do believe AAC is the default.
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Jan 28, 2022 12:15:45 GMT -5
Post by gbacklin on Jan 28, 2022 12:15:45 GMT -5
My current iTunes on our Mac won't let me upload music from my own CDs anymore. This is just a corporate monopoly in disguise. What version of the OS do you have ? The app is now called "Music"
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Jan 28, 2022 12:24:49 GMT -5
Post by howard lee on Jan 28, 2022 12:24:49 GMT -5
My current iTunes on our Mac won't let me upload music from my own CDs anymore. This is just a corporate monopoly in disguise. What version of the OS do you have ? The app is now called "Music" The current version, Mount Vesuvius or whatever they are calling it now. OS11.15 or such. I Just upgraded it the other day. I can scan a CD but it won't upload to my library; refuses to import. Just another way Apple can force your hand to buy digital downloads from Apple.
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Post by Cornflake on Jan 28, 2022 12:58:04 GMT -5
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Jan 28, 2022 13:43:07 GMT -5
Post by Marshall on Jan 28, 2022 13:43:07 GMT -5
Apple desperately wants you to sign up for their subscription streaming service. They're not happy with me and my own owned files. Maybe I'll have to look for another music player. I'm concerned they'll go totally streaming and leave those of us with our own music collections in the dust.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:47:08 GMT -5
Post by Marshall on Jan 28, 2022 13:47:08 GMT -5
I have gone thru my old CD collection and loaded them into iTunes as MP3s. I have an old CD/DVD disc player that connects to a computer via USB. That’s how I loaded the CDs into iTunes. In case you didn't know, the Apple codec AAC, which is an codec option on importing music, is a better quality than mp3. Then again, it all depends on what you are listening through also. I do believe AAC is the default. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I record the mp3s at the highest bit rate possible. I'm not that picayune of an audiophile to hunt the latest and greatest. Some of my mp3s are old like ones recorded on a mini-disk player in Bill's basement over 15 years ago. And I listen while in the car or through bone-phones while walking. Neither is a high fidelity output device. - I'm happy.
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Dub
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Post by Dub on Jan 28, 2022 14:04:59 GMT -5
I have a Spotify account but very seldom use it. I once had the paid premium account but dropped it the last time I reevaluated music streaming.
The only “streaming station” I use is Pandora and I have a paid subscription so highest quality, no ads, etc. I like Pandora because of the Music Genome Project that really does a great job of determining what I actually want to hear and doesn’t surprise me in an uninvited or unpleasant way. I have created very focused “stations” for bluegrass, blues, piano jazz, gypsy jazz, Merle Travis, Christmas music, etc. In the early stages of making a station, I actively guide the preference engine to fine tune the selections. This works well for me. I can avoid all pop music. Still, I don’t spend a lot of time listening to Pandora.
I use Amazon Prime so I have access to music through them but don’t go there often. I also have an unpaid Napster account that I rarely use. I started years ago with a really nice music service that was heavily loaded with stuff I like, classical, folk, old-time country and other hard to find stuff. That service went through several changes and wound up buying the defunct Napster name. I still have the account though not a paid one.
My main source for online music now is Apple Music. I switched to that because I noticed that Apple had by far the largest inventory of tunes. Since I mad the change, I haven’t followed up to see if that’s still true. I was already using the Apple service that keeps track of music you’ve purchased and ripped to iTunes/Apple Music. Once it knows that you own it it always delivers the higher quality stream from its archive rather than the MP3 quality originally ripped.
I also use Apple’s iCloud service so when Apple came out with their Apple One offering I realized I could pick that up and get additional services for the same money I was already paying them. I have the family plan so that Fiddlerina has access to everything too.
Fiddlerina bought me a couple of Apple HomePod Mini speakers for Christmas and they sound much better than her Bluetooth speaker system did. In part it’s because they use WiFi, not Bluetooth so they get the full signal. Bluetooth lacks the bandwidth for true high fidelity.
Speaking of fidelity, we also gave ourselves a new Fluance MT85 turntable for Christmas. Now we can again listen to several hundred vinyl LPs we haven’t heard in a long while. Of course most of our LPs exist as digital recordings on the net but the LPs that aren’t worn out sound much better.
Which brings me to another issue I picked up on lately. Modern LPs are cut from digital recordings. I hadn’t thought about that but it makes sense. Many (most?) studios now use digital audio workstations (DAWs) instead of analog consoles. There is no analog recording in the first place. So a modern LP may not be any higher quality than the CD or the online stream. I think I’ll start paying more attention to sources for used LPs. A trip to Chicago’s Jazz Record Mart may be in order.
“Where did it all go, Blanche?”
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Post by gbacklin on Jan 28, 2022 14:23:27 GMT -5
What version of the OS do you have ? The app is now called "Music" The current version, Mount Vesuvius or whatever they are calling it now. OS11.15 or such. I Just upgraded it the other day. I can scan a CD but it won't upload to my library; refuses to import. Just another way Apple can force your hand to buy digital downloads from Apple. Here is their support site for importing CD's. Maybe you have tried all of this stuff, that I do not know. -> Apple Support
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Jan 28, 2022 19:24:14 GMT -5
Post by howard lee on Jan 28, 2022 19:24:14 GMT -5
Thanks, Gene! Maybe this time their support site will actually help me. It never has before.
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Jan 28, 2022 19:42:09 GMT -5
Post by jdd2 on Jan 28, 2022 19:42:09 GMT -5
The forums communities there can be good, too.
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Dub
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Post by Dub on Jan 28, 2022 20:06:10 GMT -5
Thanks, Gene! Maybe this time their support site will actually help me. It never has before. I have found that there is a solution for most technical problems somewhere on the Net just waiting to be discovered. The chances that I'm the first one to experience any particular problem are minuscule. Before even going to the manufacturer's support site, I just enter my problem into a Duck Duck Go search and viola! [ sic] up pop a list of links to helpful folks explaining how they've dealt with my problem. If that fails, I RTFM.
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Post by Cornflake on Jan 28, 2022 20:26:41 GMT -5
"I have found that there is a solution for most technical problems somewhere on the Net just waiting to be discovered. The chances that I'm the first one to experience any particular problem are minuscule. Before even going to the manufacturer's support site, I just enter my problem into a Duck Duck Go search and viola! [sic] up pop a list of links to helpful folks explaining how they've dealt with my problem."
Not just computer problems. Recently I had a filter stuck on my best camera lens. I figured I'd been an idiot in accomplishing that. Then I googled and found that it happens to most photographers sooner or later and then found ten ways to fix it. The fourth worked.
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Dub
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Post by Dub on Jan 28, 2022 20:32:47 GMT -5
"I have found that there is a solution for most technical problems somewhere on the Net just waiting to be discovered. The chances that I'm the first one to experience any particular problem are minuscule. Before even going to the manufacturer's support site, I just enter my problem into a Duck Duck Go search and viola! [sic] up pop a list of links to helpful folks explaining how they've dealt with my problem." Not just computer problems. Recently I had a filter stuck on my best camera lens. I figured I'd been an idiot in accomplishing that. Then I googled and found that it happens to most photographers sooner or later and then found ten ways to fix it. The fourth worked. Right, nearly any problem. It amazed me to discover that most people really enjoy helping each other and will go to considerable lengths to do it.
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Jan 29, 2022 1:12:39 GMT -5
Post by jdd2 on Jan 29, 2022 1:12:39 GMT -5
and now joni mitchell
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Post by millring on Jan 29, 2022 6:24:55 GMT -5
The irony of the world of once upon a time rebels now standing in lock step with the institutions.
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Jan 29, 2022 7:07:13 GMT -5
Post by jdd2 on Jan 29, 2022 7:07:13 GMT -5
To me the irony is that the past leader of the republicans/conservatives--reagan (cold warrior par excellence)--got swapped out for one who is an apologist for putin.
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