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Post by PaulKay on May 17, 2022 8:59:59 GMT -5
Irony is not dead. A rural county in Iowa that supported Trump turns to LatinosJEFFERSON, Iowa — For the last several years, officials here have tried desperately to attract new residents to Greene County, a sea of corn and bean fields about 60 miles from Des Moines. They brought in a Hy-Vee supermarket, a career academy, a high-tech workspace, and a second bank. A glitzy casino anchors one side of the highway, a brand-new high school is on the other. Nothing worked. The population kept dropping. Greene County — like much of rural America — is sinking into a demographic hole, down from more than 15,500 residents after World War II to an estimated 8,717 last year, with the population now falling by about 100 every year. Factories have dozens of job openings, schools have closed, and villages are crumbling. Deaths have outpaced births for so long that the hospital stopped delivering babies. In a series of public meetings that started last month, the community has been weighing how to stop the decline, and this mostly White, mostly Republican stronghold has concluded that the only way to grow is to recruit Latino residents. “It’s the only game in town,” consultant Carlos Argüello said at one presentation. “I’m sorry to tell it to you that way. But it’s true.” Latinos are the largest minority group in Iowa, and one of the fastest growing, projected to more than double to 407,000 residents over the next 30 years. The White population, in contrast, has declined in almost every rural county, according to an analysis of census estimates by demographer William Frey of the Brookings Institution. Republicans and Democrats agree that the situation is dire. But the question is whether a county that voted for President Donald Trump and former congressman Steve King, both Republicans who denigrated Latin American immigrants, can welcome Latinos and their families, and whether those families will be willing to come to Greene County. |
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Post by dradtke on May 17, 2022 9:03:55 GMT -5
Curiouser and curiouser.
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Post by aquaduct on May 17, 2022 10:18:20 GMT -5
I don't recall any Republican (including Trump and I've watched a lot of his rallies) denigrating Latinos. Saying that you want to stop illegal immigration of the whole world through Latin American countries isn't the same thing at all.
And from what I hear, Latinos are much more in favor of traditional Christian (mostly Catholic) family values and the Biden administrations debasement of all that has hit Democrats approval ratings harder than any other group.
So I wouldn't be surprised and wouldn't worry about it at all. They're welcome (as they always have been in my house) and should help destroy Democrats, particularly the pro-abortion ones screaming and making an uncomfortable scene over Roe v. Wade.
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Post by theevan on May 17, 2022 15:39:01 GMT -5
Sounds like a great idea
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Post by jdd2 on May 17, 2022 15:52:54 GMT -5
So, replacement theory might be gaining acceptance.
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Post by aquaduct on May 17, 2022 16:14:01 GMT -5
So, replacement theory might be gaining acceptance. And what the heck is "replacement theory". |
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Post by Russell Letson on May 17, 2022 16:20:15 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on May 17, 2022 16:33:20 GMT -5
Still doesn't tell me what it is, so there's no way to provide any context for any of it. So far it's just another brain fart from the progressive left. Like CRT and the LGBTQRSTIOBFWAKLFUC... thing. |
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on May 17, 2022 16:58:54 GMT -5
An explanation from NPR. Essentially the same as other Google sources:
What is the "great replacement"?
In short, the "great replacement" is a conspiracy theory that states that nonwhite individuals are being brought into the United States and other Western countries to "replace" white voters to achieve a political agenda. It is often touted by anti-immigration groups, white supremacists and others, according to the National Immigration Forum.
White supremacists argue that the influx of immigrants, people of color more specifically, will lead to the extinction of the white race.
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Post by Russell Letson on May 17, 2022 17:09:21 GMT -5
Do a Google/DuckDuckGo search on "great replacement" or just "replacement theory." There's also a Wikipedia entry tracing the origins of the idea. The prominent recent example of one version of it was the chant of the tiki-torch marchers in Charlottesville five years ago.
And you don't need a lot of context to get the point that Carlson is making. "The left" didn't make up the term or the idea, which in fact has been developed and promoted by the far right in Europe and North America.
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Post by aquaduct on May 17, 2022 17:17:33 GMT -5
Do a Google/DuckDuckGo search on "great replacement" or just "replacement theory." There's also a Wikipedia entry tracing the origins of the idea. The prominent recent example of one version of it was the chant of the tiki-torch marchers in Charlottesville five years ago. And you don't need a lot of context to get the point that Carlson is making. "The left" didn't make up the term or the idea, which in fact has been developed and promoted by the far right in Europe and North America. Ah, almost six years ago. And Trump allegedly called them "really good people". And then there's QAnon. Hanners bolted this place before he ever got the chance to tell us when they were actually going to storm DC. Imagine that. And January 6th was an insurrection. And the greatest threat to the country is white supremacists. Do liberals have any rational tether to the planet anymore? |
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Post by brucemacneill on May 17, 2022 17:18:49 GMT -5
Wait 'til all those "People of color" the left is bringing in turn out to be conservatives escaping leftist countries. Hope I live to see it.
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Post by aquaduct on May 17, 2022 17:19:26 GMT -5
An explanation from NPR. Essentially the same as other Google sources: What is the "great replacement"? In short, the "great replacement" is a conspiracy theory that states that nonwhite individuals are being brought into the United States and other Western countries to "replace" white voters to achieve a political agenda. It is often touted by anti-immigration groups, white supremacists and others, according to the National Immigration Forum. White supremacists argue that the influx of immigrants, people of color more specifically, will lead to the extinction of the white race. So how many "white supremacists" do you actually know? Because I've never met one. |
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on May 17, 2022 17:28:02 GMT -5
An explanation from NPR. Essentially the same as other Google sources: What is the "great replacement"? In short, the "great replacement" is a conspiracy theory that states that nonwhite individuals are being brought into the United States and other Western countries to "replace" white voters to achieve a political agenda. It is often touted by anti-immigration groups, white supremacists and others, according to the National Immigration Forum. White supremacists argue that the influx of immigrants, people of color more specifically, will lead to the extinction of the white race. So how many "white supremacists" do you actually know? Because I've never met one. You said "Still doesn't tell me what it is,..." so I provided an explanation, without claiming to know any white supremacists. Information only. |
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Post by Russell Letson on May 17, 2022 17:31:27 GMT -5
Wait 'til all those "People of color" the left is bringing in turn out to be conservatives escaping leftist countries. Hope I live to see it. I married into a family that escaped from the advance guard of a leftist regime (there was an NKVD man goin' 'round takin' names), so I'm quite familiar with refugee politics. I've also watched the effects of Cuban refugees on Florida politics (from a distance, thank dog), so I'll have to decline your offer of instruction on egg-sucking. |
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Post by aquaduct on May 17, 2022 20:36:26 GMT -5
Oh, I get it now. Biden went on another unhinged rant about white supremacists being the biggest threat to the nation (yeah, bigger than like Russia, China, Iran, war in general, disease, crime, national bankruptcy, starvation, hurricanes, fires, yada, yada) talking about this unhinged, certifiably identified and well known but not stopped mass shooter in Buffalo and now "replacement theory" is today's talking point to push everything from gun control to global warming to acne.
Got it.
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Post by millring on May 18, 2022 4:58:46 GMT -5
both Republicans who denigrated Latin American immigrants, can welcome Latinos and their families. Objectively false. |
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Post by Marshall on May 18, 2022 9:04:43 GMT -5
There are white supremist loonies out there. The Buffalo shooting is a horrific example. Tucker Carlson is a manipulative asshole.
But the Democratic side of the aisle does itself disservice (and the country?) by characterizing any opposition to their proposals in such black and white terms.
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Post by Dub on May 18, 2022 9:11:43 GMT -5
Like anywhere else, Iowa has its share racists, and perhaps more than its share of wackos, but Iowa’s economy is absolutely dependent on Latinos and has been for decades. Iowa farms depend on these people as do the meat packers. The in-laws of one of Fiddlerina’s brothers are from South Africa and have a company based in North Carolina that brings African workers to client farms. If you’re having your roof re-shingled, the chances are the work will be done by Latinos and their work is widely known as excellent.
Anyone who thinks Latinos won’t be welcome in Greene County haven’t been to Postville or West Liberty.
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Post by epaul on May 18, 2022 9:33:13 GMT -5
Taking advantage of a warming climate, several North Dakota towns have begun campaigns to attract Iowans.  "King Cat". Fish the Red. North Dakota Beautiful. Come see for yourself, Iowa! North Dakota, not just for tourism and sex with farmers. |
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