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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 30, 2020 9:44:31 GMT -5
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Post by theevan on Apr 30, 2020 9:47:06 GMT -5
So Tucker Carson is a white power racist.
Ohhhh-kayyyyy.
I wonder what neat little cubbyhole of yours I fit.
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Post by james on Apr 30, 2020 9:55:09 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 30, 2020 10:23:02 GMT -5
So Tucker Carson is a white power racist. Ohhhh-kayyyyy. I wonder what neat little cubbyhole of yours I fit. Probably the next one over from me. I've learned to ignore him. It's easy if you try.
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Post by fauxmaha on Apr 30, 2020 11:27:05 GMT -5
Sorry. Poorly phrased. I don't imagine that you watch Tucker Carlson. You have made it clear that you'd sooner watch PBS. And if he hadn't?
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Post by james on Apr 30, 2020 11:32:52 GMT -5
Hadn't watched PBS News? I'm not sure what the question is.
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Post by theevan on Apr 30, 2020 12:41:03 GMT -5
I dared to read the Guardian "article ". I've never watched Carlson (no cable/ don't care anyway) but that screed is the worst kind of sensationalist tripe. My question is why is it so important that people we see as being on the "other side" be demonized, tarred, dehumanized? The ante keeps being upped, one side against other.
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Post by fauxmaha on Apr 30, 2020 13:02:01 GMT -5
Hadn't watched PBS News? I'm not sure what the question is. I too am trying to understand. Are you saying that if he were a Tucker Carlson viewer, that would identify him as a white supremacist, but since he's expressed some affinity for PBS, that makes him ok?
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Post by Dub on Apr 30, 2020 13:46:32 GMT -5
Hadn't watched PBS News? I'm not sure what the question is. I too am trying to understand. Are you saying that if he were a Tucker Carlson viewer, that would identify him as a white supremacist, but since he's expressed some affinity for PBS, that makes him ok? I know I have a special cubby hole for Evan. It’s way high up on a pedestal farther than I can hope to reach. Like Evan, we have no cable service and have never seen Tucker Carlson.
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Post by billhammond on Apr 30, 2020 13:52:53 GMT -5
The VP toured a GM plant in Kokomo, Ind., today, and was wearing a mask!
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Post by james on Apr 30, 2020 14:03:22 GMT -5
Hadn't watched PBS News? I'm not sure what the question is. I too am trying to understand. Are you saying that if he were a Tucker Carlson viewer, that would identify him as a white supremacist, but since he's expressed some affinity for PBS, that makes him ok? No. Millring was bemoaning PBS'S choice of subjects on Newshour the other day and saying he didn't anticipate that they would report on Purdue University and their plans to reopen. Calling the programme "PBS Nightly Terror hour". It has come to my attention that the covid-19 coverage on Tucker Carlson's programme echoes more the findings and opinions that Millring has posted here. I have watched more than my fair share of Tucker Carlson's output, including segments on covid-19. That doesn't make me a white supremacist or an apologist for them. Nor Carlson's other viewers.
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Post by millring on Apr 30, 2020 17:00:50 GMT -5
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Post by james on Apr 30, 2020 17:46:19 GMT -5
A reasonable article which, as you'd hope, raises a lot of questions about what different societies are going to have to do from now on according to their circumstances. What scope there might be for the various and flexible measures that will be needed.I wouldn't describe Friedman as an extreme leftist though.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 30, 2020 18:19:54 GMT -5
As of April 28, the country’s Covid-19 death toll reached 2,274, about five times higher than in Denmark and 11 times higher than in Norway.” Nursing home residents account for more than a third of all deaths. Beyond the fact that his math is absurd, Denmark and Norway will keep counting later this year. And next year. And next year. And any time they "open back up". Meanwhile, Sweden will have a higher death toll in the short term and then will be free while everyone else keeps dying and catching up.[/quote] Ahhhh, That's your angle. Get it over quicker and move on, as opposed to shutting the whole world down and ultimately killing the same number,of people, but bringing on world economic depression in the process. a risky but reasonable discussion. But there's a middle ground too. The purpose of the shutdown is to keep the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. That seems to have succeeded. The flip side is how to start up businesses again and keep the fallout within the healthcare system's ability to respond effectively. - Not an easy equation to work out. but one we're all wrestling with. Cure, schmure. It'd be great to have one. But waiting for that is not a realistic option.
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Post by epaul on Apr 30, 2020 18:35:27 GMT -5
And a fine question it is. But if you are interested in an answer that has a chance of being worthwhile, you will have to wait, along with everyone else, until the dust settles. After this disease has run its first lap, worthwhile analysis will take place and revised policies will be formed based on what was learned. Sweden will certainly be looked at. Maybe they got it right, maybe not, time will tell and there will be much to consider. I can't speak to the relative Nordic economies, but Sweden's deaths/per million rate isn't anything to brag about. Deaths per million of population Sweden = 243 Norway = 37 Finland = 38 Denmark = 74 U.S. = 184 France = 369 UK = 384 Italy = 457 Canada = all gone. Sad. Country to country comparisons are not a perfect measure. Different countries can vary by reporting protocol and relative progression of the disease. Again, when the dust has settled, much more will be known about country and policy. statistics link
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Post by epaul on Apr 30, 2020 18:45:09 GMT -5
...Beyond the fact that his math is absurd, Denmark and Norway will keep counting later this year. And next year. And next year. And any time they "open back up". Meanwhile, Sweden will have a higher death toll in the short term and then will be free while everyone else keeps dying and catching up. The math isn't absurd. Math is math. And unsubstantiated guesses regarding future runs of the virus are just that, unsubstantiated guesses. Sweden's "viral freedom" isn't something that will be known for some time. It may be, or it may not. It can't be known until it is known. (you can start guessing come September. Or August if you just can't wait. But now? there is no point.)
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 30, 2020 19:29:43 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Apr 30, 2020 19:55:18 GMT -5
About what you would expect them to say. China has been in charge of our top intelligence agency for years. We've outsourced everything, TV sets, socks, spys, harmonicas, everything. Sad.
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Post by james on Apr 30, 2020 20:12:17 GMT -5
Not as sad as that Canada bombshell. 😢
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 30, 2020 20:23:03 GMT -5
Yeah. Where's my maple syrup going to come from?
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