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Post by majorminor on May 7, 2020 10:31:23 GMT -5
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Post by billhammond on May 7, 2020 10:45:22 GMT -5
(CNN)A member of the US Navy who serves as one of President Donald Trump's personal valets has tested positive for coronavirus, CNN learned Thursday, raising concerns about the President's possible exposure to the virus.
The valets are members of an elite military unit dedicated to the White House and often work very close to the President and first family. Trump was upset when he was informed Wednesday that the valet had tested positive, a source told CNN, and the President was subsequently tested again by the White House physician.
In a statement, the White House confirmed CNN's reporting that one of the President's staffers had tested positive.
"We were recently notified by the White House Medical Unit that a member of the United States Military, who works on the White House campus, has tested positive for Coronavirus," deputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley said in a statement. "The President and the Vice President have since tested negative for the virus and they remain in great health."
A White House source said the valet, a man who has not been identified, exhibited "symptoms" Wednesday morning, and said the news that someone close to Trump had tested positive for coronavirus was "hitting the fan" in the West Wing.
Trump, who is a self-described germophobe, has chastised aides before who coughed or sneezed in his presence. He has claimed to rarely get sick himself.
Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and the senior staffers who regularly interact with them are still being tested weekly for coronavirus, two people familiar told CNN.
The White House is continuing to use the rapid Abbott Labs test, which provide results in about 15 minutes. Several officials who have received the test said it's often administered in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, next door to the West Wing on the White House grounds. A medical official swabs the staffer's nostrils and informs them that they'll be notified within the next several minutes if it's positive.
Still, the White House has not enforced strict social distancing guidelines for staffers and few people inside the building wear masks during the day, including valets.
Trump said before traveling aboard Air Force One earlier this week that he was not concerned about being in close quarters with other people since those around him are regularly tested.
"The test result comes back in five minutes, and we have great testing. Or they wouldn't be allowed to travel with me," Trump said. "It's not my choice; it's a very strong group of people that want to make sure they are tested, including Secret Service."
Still, a negative test and lack of symptoms isn't a sure sign that someone can't spread the virus.
Doctors say the incubation period for the coronavirus varies. The incubation period is the time that it takes from when you are exposed to the virus to developing symptoms. It ranges anywhere from 2-14 days. The average incubation period is estimated to be five days, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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Post by james on May 7, 2020 10:54:21 GMT -5
"I suspect that many of our political leaders, especially our state governors, and those political leaders around the globe, are, in good faith, trying to guide their governments, with the above thoughts in mind." Yes. I'm following my state's data and the actions of our conservative Republican governor. My impression is that he's a week or two early in his steps to reopen things. That's not a huge difference. But he has more information than I do. If I had all that information I might be doing exactly what he's doing. In any event, I'm going to give him a lot of slack. I read an AZCentral op-ed on developments. It would seem, not surprisingly, that views vary. Confusingly, the Tim Lant (ASU epidemiologist) comment is dated April 22nd. eu.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2020/05/06/arizona-not-ready-reopen-asu-ua-coronavirus-models-say-fired/5175510002/I see that a purple wigged Sen. Sinema seems not to be similarly minded to Ducey about the issue. eu.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2020/05/06/sen-kyrsten-sinema-wears-purple-wig-senate-floor-coronavirus-covid-19/5177209002/Edit - bit more follow-up. I'm sure you're in a better position to evaluate all this than I am Don. eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2020/05/06/asu-continue-covid-19-modeling-despite-health-department-instructions/5180017002/
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Post by Cornflake on May 7, 2020 11:02:47 GMT -5
James, this was the reported explanation :
"Ducey spokesman Patrick Ptak said Wednesday the state was using multiple models earlier on, which often had 'widely divergent' projections and changed constantly.
“'We now have two months of on-the-ground data,'” Ptak said. “We’ve been able to see which models are accurate — which match the actual facts and are most useful — and which are not.”
"Ptak noted that ADHS Director Cara Christ, who is an infectious disease epidemiologist and public health expert, made the decision to pause the university modeling group 'after reviewing all the data.'”
I have no reason to doubt that. Ducey isn't a liar. Christ is our Fauci and is widely respected. Laurie Roberts often shoots first and asks questions later.
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Post by james on May 7, 2020 11:04:13 GMT -5
Cross-posted with my edit. 🙂
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Post by Cornflake on May 7, 2020 11:35:55 GMT -5
No problem. Any my reaction is certainly colored by having dealt with Ducey and Roberts.
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Post by epaul on May 7, 2020 12:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by Russell Letson on May 7, 2020 12:43:00 GMT -5
FWIW, re: Mikovits' claims: A musical friend who is also a virologist (U of Maryland and National Cancer Institute, ret.) comments: "I’ve never seen a denser concentration of bullshit. The lady is either crazy or criminal."
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Post by epaul on May 7, 2020 13:32:50 GMT -5
The Mikovit thing has been removed from YouTube. Too much bullshit.
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Zoltar's reach is expanding.
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Post by fauxmaha on May 7, 2020 13:44:32 GMT -5
The Mikovit thing has been removed from YouTube. Thus re-invigorating the conspiracy theory. Idiots.
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Post by howard lee on May 7, 2020 13:47:08 GMT -5
In a moment of good news, my son texted me to tell me he received the results of his anti-body test: Positive.
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Post by millring on May 7, 2020 14:03:47 GMT -5
I haven't watched the Mikovit video. What's it say?
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Post by james on May 7, 2020 14:10:17 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on May 7, 2020 14:18:52 GMT -5
I haven't watched the Mikovit video. What's it say? It makes 2 potentially significant claims. The first was a Congressional act that effectively moved much of the drug innovation into the hands of corporations which are currently profiting massively by sucking up anything in the area that anybody's doing, effectively killing competition and innovation. But that's not surprising given how government monopoly building has been going for the last 70 years or so. The other thing is kind of a round up of these renegade medical professionals who are questioning the whole lock down mentality and why it's managing to override any common sense with this pandemic. Small wonder why progressives have flamed out trying to kill it.
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Post by theevan on May 7, 2020 15:29:28 GMT -5
In a moment of good news, my son texted me to tell me he received the results of his anti-body test: Positive. Meaning he had the 'Rona but was asymptomatic?
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Post by howard lee on May 7, 2020 15:39:16 GMT -5
In a moment of good news, my son texted me to tell me he received the results of his anti-body test: Positive. Meaning he had the 'Rona but was asymptomatic?
Meaning he was sick with all the reported symptoms—aches, pains, fever, cough, lost olfactory sense—for more than two weeks, but recovered. Fortunately, the virus didn't seem to make its way into his lungs, which remained a lot clearer than his sinuses. But he's feeling 100% now. And his sense of taste has returned, crucial to a foodie such as he. I was so worried. I am so relieved.
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Post by Russell Letson on May 7, 2020 15:41:33 GMT -5
The Mikovit thing has been removed from YouTube. Thus re-invigorating the conspiracy theory. Idiots. And if it's left up, the gullible and predisposed take it for gospel. And conspiracy theories and theorists are invigorated by anything, positive, negative, or neutral. Think of YouTube as finally instituting some social distancing.
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Post by fauxmaha on May 7, 2020 16:09:45 GMT -5
Thus re-invigorating the conspiracy theory. Idiots. And if it's left up, the gullible and predisposed take it for gospel. And conspiracy theories and theorists are invigorated by anything, positive, negative, or neutral. Think of YouTube as finally instituting some social distancing. You have to think in terms of the psychology of the conspiracy minded. All YouTube did was ensure that they become further convinced that they have a unique insight into the forbidden knowledge. Nothing about this action will keep anyone from "taking it for gospel". Quite the opposite, actually. Virtual book burning as a method of suppressing heresy is doomed to failure.
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Post by Marshall on May 7, 2020 16:26:05 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me is that a large percentage of those still working are treading water. There's little or no economy happening. Many companies are keeping key people on in hopes that things will get rolling again and they'll need them. But the companies are loosing money all day long. That's a pregnant situation that can't be sustained in it's present form.
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Post by Cornflake on May 7, 2020 16:47:41 GMT -5
I think you're right to be worried, Marshall. The data I've seen about Georgia's reopening indicates that the reopening hasn't provide much of a spur to economic activity. Maybe with more time we'll see that change.
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