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Post by fauxmaha on Apr 2, 2020 17:17:39 GMT -5
Once again, I salute you, sir! Hasn't helped my hairline one little bit.
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COVID 19
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Post by majorminor on Apr 2, 2020 17:23:05 GMT -5
Would a “ happy ending” joke inserted here be in poor taste then?
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Post by billhammond on Apr 2, 2020 17:31:03 GMT -5
Would a “ happy ending” joke inserted here be in poor taste then? Maybe too soon.
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Post by fauxmaha on Apr 2, 2020 17:37:01 GMT -5
Would a “ happy ending” joke inserted here be in poor taste then? Maybe too soon. Much to the massage therapist's relief.
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Post by billhammond on Apr 2, 2020 17:41:17 GMT -5
Oh, fer chrissakes, from my car dealer, I just got this:
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Post by epaul on Apr 2, 2020 17:42:31 GMT -5
Maybe I need to re evaluate what I expect a federal government to do. Or try to do. Just like I expect them to know before the guys at The Hobo Haus when Russia blows the lids on a few ballistic missile silos in Siberia I’d also like them to see the plague coming before Joe Rogan on his podcast. Too much to expect? Probably. The Federal government is no different than the Hobo Haus. Probably not as unified in goal and purpose as the Hobo Haus. Make that definitely not as unified in goal and purpose. The Federal government is us, not some agency of Overlords from Outer Space. SARS hit darn near twenty years ago. Every warning bell you could want or imagine was rung and rung loudly: We aren't prepared! We need to prepare! It or something like it will come! Everyone nodded (or at least many nodded). Yep. That would be a good idea. But, SAS didn't hit here. It hit in China. But not here and that's what matters (and save the sermon, what is, is). And the issue drifted away. Important, but not important enough to pay for. And was forgotten. (here, not in China). And there is no high ground for either party to claim in this lack of preparedness issue (not that that will stop both from trying to grab it this next go round). Both had their issues near and dear, and preparedness for a viral pandemic was not on either party's agenda. And we will be able to watch the same sad ineptitude raise its head in the aftermath of this tragic event. Watch the proposals to improve public health facilities unravel due the forever ongoing abortion fight: A. "Womens' reproductive health needs to be included in any public health spending proposal" B. "You put killing babies in this bill and we will kill it instead." That fight will never end. But can we at least agree to stockpile a boat load of masks and fund research into viral protection equipment, medications, and vaccines? Cross your fingers.
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Post by billhammond on Apr 2, 2020 18:06:23 GMT -5
Effluent hit the ventilator at work today -- we've been consolidating sections like crazy as print-ad orders have dropped off the cliff (Travel section, especially, no one is traveling, no travel-associated businesses are advertising, and we can't even write about close-to-home car travel options in good conscience, so we're reduced to using great past travel photos from our staff, sharing ways to use online resources to "travel," etc.).
The union called an emergency meeting today after the company said dire measures are needed, asking for full-timers to accept the need for eight furlough days between now and September, delaying some pay increases that our latest contract calls for until September (w/ the wink/wink promise of retroactive repayment in September) and even saying that all of the managers are taking a pay cut, w/o specifying any numbers, natch.
The contract does allow for layoffs amid economic need, but it also requires that buyouts be offered first, so I might, just might, come out of this OK, but I really wanted to keep working at least another year.
September seems to be a month that a lot of businesses are aiming at as heading back to something near normal. Meanwhile, there is growing certainty that the MN State Fair, which brings millions of breathers together in love-handle-to-love-handle proximity for 12 days, ain't gonna happen.
I'm sure of it, myself. I live a mile and a half from the fairgrounds, and if it were to be held this year, I don't think I would even go outside my house.
And as much as it pains me to type this, I think we should all be prepared for Idiotjam to be delayed, if not scuttled, for 2020.
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Post by epaul on Apr 2, 2020 18:07:25 GMT -5
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Apr 2, 2020 18:38:43 GMT -5
And as much as it pains me to type this, I think we should all be prepared for Idiotjam to be delayed, if not scuttled, for 2020. Two words: Idiot Zoom
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 2, 2020 18:41:05 GMT -5
One thing about Trump—and I’m pretty sure I’m not the first here to point this out—there is often a world of difference between what he says in the moment, and what he does. His track record of saying outlandish shit, off-the-cuff, is on the way to being largely unparalleled. That said, what he actually *does* often gets covered up in the bluster, both coming and going. For instance, he closed all travel to/from China back in January. Almost a month before we started talking about the virus on this forum. Straight up, Trump is no dumbfuck, he just plays one well on TV. A lot of our gov’t’s current lack of material resources to back up our for-profit hospitals in this time of crisis can be laid at the feet of both parties; certainly, the GWB and Obama admins didn’t do anything to shore up big Gov’t doomsday prepping. Ironically, the guy most likely to fix that is the Donald, both because he’s the fool on duty when the shit hit the fan AND because he was hired largely to bust current best practices. JMO. By the way, did anyone notice that Trump's EPA finalized their auto emission rules on Tuesday? You know, the one's that replaced the one's that the Obama administration carelessly neglected to finalize before vacating the White House? The one's that brought Obama out of his hole to lambaste them over the weekend? The one's that specifically back off the CO2 part? The one's that something like 23 states and every green group in the country have already gotten their lawsuits in the pipeline? Which will likely eventually get to the Supreme Court? Where Trump's already gotten Kavanaugh and Gorsuch in? Where the SC rejection of CO2 as a pollutant which will both eviscerate the climate change nonsense and potentially knock the pins out from under the Administrative State for good? No? Sure, keep insisting he's a dumbfuck. That's exactly where we want you.
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 2, 2020 18:47:58 GMT -5
Carrier commander has lost his job (due to his public plea for help).
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 2, 2020 18:52:42 GMT -5
Carrier commander has lost his job (due to his public plea for help). Yeah. That was a stupid thing for him to do. Advertise that your ship is ripe for sinking. Hopefully somebody learned a lesson.
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Post by Chesapeake on Apr 2, 2020 18:55:05 GMT -5
Oh, fer chrissakes, from my car dealer, I just got this: Stop The Cycle! We’re all more concerned with sanitizing these days. Xzilon XMicrobe is a continuous anti-microbial protection barrier that resists stains, odors, and harmful pathogens. XMicrobe is Earth-friendly, EPA registered, and protects your interior cabin, trunk, and air ventilation system. Jim Lupient INFINITI is offering the Xzilon XMicrobe treatment for just $149.95 through the month of April. Cadillac has got our backs. They're offering online shopping.
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 2, 2020 18:55:43 GMT -5
What I'm finding somewhat humorous in the political side of the pandemic is that for the past 3 plus years Trump's been accused of being a Hitler or at least Stalin level dictator. Yes he was systematically taking apart their plans for the global state. Now, that the shit has hit the fan and they expect him to be able to control the world they're angry that he admits to not being a dictator and there are limits to what he can do, limits to what he has constitutional responsibility for and he's just trying to do what he, and the administration, can legally do to help the country through this. The globalism of the past several decades eliminated mush of the U.S.s capabilities in manufacturing but now, as he said he would, he's trying to build it back up and make the U.S. self-sufficient again and capable of leading the world in everything it takes to be self-sufficient. If successful, we should be providing what the world needs and getting paid for it. In short, contrary to the Democrat long term plan, he's making America great again. That really pisses them off.
After watching part of today's briefing, I heard a lot of reporter questions that seemed to be based in Facebook memes, then answers from the experts about how things really work and that the questions were way off the mark for truth. It should be embarrassing to Democrats but they won't notice.
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 2, 2020 19:21:40 GMT -5
Carrier commander has lost his job (due to his public plea for help). Yeah. That was a stupid thing for him to do. Advertise that your ship is ripe for sinking. Hopefully somebody learned a lesson. Hopefully, the people higher up who weren't listening to him and acting have learned their lesson.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 2, 2020 19:31:04 GMT -5
Yeah. That was a stupid thing for him to do. Advertise that your ship is ripe for sinking. Hopefully somebody learned a lesson. Hopefully, the people higher up who weren't listening to him and acting have learned their lesson. I'm sure they did. That lesson would be that it's easy to find another carrier commander.
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 2, 2020 19:32:39 GMT -5
I've been reading the projections about when this will peak and subside in various locales. They're projections, of course, and reality will almost certainly differ. The projections linked in the infection-question thread assume good social distancing. It's pretty hit-and-miss here, due to a tepid response by our state government, so I suspect the result will be worse. Those projections show my area peaking in late April or early May, with infections subsiding to the present level in maybe the second week of June. The peak and subsidence are expected to come earlier in New York, later in Texas. In any event, it'll be a while.
The economy is a concern for everyone. I'm not with the people who want to throw the geezers overboard to get it restarted. Being a geezer, I have problems with that. We need to do what we're doing. But this is a body blow to the economy. It's worse than the Depression, I suspect. We all depend on that economy. When the worst subsides, we won't just throw a switch and start singing Happy Days Are Here Again. Our household income depends partly on Social Security, partly on a small pension my wife will soon get and otherwise on income from our life savings, which is invested in the economy. We're going to see government revenues and investment income shrink. Not much is safe. I hope I'm being too pessimistic but we're planting food crops in the garden.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 2, 2020 19:52:21 GMT -5
The economy is a concern for everyone. I'm not with the people who want to throw the geezers overboard to get it restarted. Being a geezer, I have problems with that. We need to do what we're doing. What's the theory on how restarting the economy throws the geezers (who by and large are no longer involved in making the economy work) overboard? Why not let those who want to go to work work and let those who don't stay home?
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 2, 2020 19:56:59 GMT -5
Because those who want to work and do and get infected subsequently infect everyone else. Exponentially.
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Post by aquaduct on Apr 2, 2020 20:00:10 GMT -5
Because those who want to work and do and get infected subsequently infect everyone else. Exponentially. How do you know that?
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