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Post by david on Jun 10, 2023 12:23:12 GMT -5
Wow! Yes, this is going to be a show. |
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Post by Cornflake on Jun 10, 2023 21:17:12 GMT -5
If Trump is convicted, Biden should pardon him.
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Post by jdd2 on Jun 10, 2023 21:22:05 GMT -5
Google tells me there's some controversy over whether accepting aa pardon is an admission of guilt. |
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Post by Cornflake on Jun 10, 2023 21:27:00 GMT -5
I meant if Trump is convicted of the criminal charges, jdd. Then Biden can pardon him and an admission of guilt won't matter.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jun 10, 2023 21:27:33 GMT -5
If Trump is convicted, Biden should pardon him. No. Hard no. Mike |
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Post by billhammond on Jun 10, 2023 21:29:45 GMT -5
If Trump is convicted, Biden should pardon him. Why? |
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Post by t-bob on Jun 10, 2023 22:33:04 GMT -5
If Trump is convicted, Biden should pardon him. Why? Wikipedia - an article President Pardons Notes George Washington 16 John Adams 20 Thomas Jefferson 119 James Madison 196 James Monroe 419 John Quincy Adams 183 Andrew Jackson 386 Martin Van Buren 168 William Henry Harrison 0 John Tyler 209 James K. Polk 268 Zachary Taylor 38 Millard Fillmore 170 Franklin Pierce 142 James Buchanan 150 Abraham Lincoln 343 Andrew Johnson 654 Excludes thousands of pardons for ex-Confederates Ulysses S. Grant 1332 Rutherford B. Hayes 893 James A. Garfield 0 Chester A. Arthur 337 Grover Cleveland 1107 Estimate Benjamin Harrison 613 William McKinley 918 Estimate Theodore Roosevelt 981 Estimate William Howard Taft 758 Woodrow Wilson 2480 Warren G. Harding 800 Calvin Coolidge 1545 Herbert Hoover 1385 Franklin D. Roosevelt 3687 Harry S. Truman 2044 Dwight D. Eisenhower 1157 John F. Kennedy 575 Lyndon B. Johnson 1187 Richard Nixon 926 Gerald Ford 409 Jimmy Carter 566 Excludes over 200,000 pardoned for Vietnam draft evasion Ronald Reagan 406 George H. W. Bush 77 Bill Clinton 459 George W. Bush 200 Barack Obama 1927 Donald Trump 237 Joe Biden 9 Excludes 6,500 pardoned for simple possession of marijuana |
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Post by t-bob on Jun 10, 2023 23:00:17 GMT -5
"copywrited" Wikipedia - an article President Pardons Notes George Washington 16 John Adams 20 Thomas Jefferson 119 James Madison 196 James Monroe 419 John Quincy Adams 183 Andrew Jackson 386 Martin Van Buren 168 William Henry Harrison 0 John Tyler 209 James K. Polk 268 Zachary Taylor 38 Millard Fillmore 170 Franklin Pierce 142 James Buchanan 150 Abraham Lincoln 343 Andrew Johnson 654 Excludes thousands of pardons for ex-Confederates Ulysses S. Grant 1332 Rutherford B. Hayes 893 James A. Garfield 0 Chester A. Arthur 337 Grover Cleveland 1107 Estimate Benjamin Harrison 613 William McKinley 918 Estimate Theodore Roosevelt 981 Estimate William Howard Taft 758 Woodrow Wilson 2480 Warren G. Harding 800 Calvin Coolidge 1545 Herbert Hoover 1385 Franklin D. Roosevelt 3687 Harry S. Truman 2044 Dwight D. Eisenhower 1157 John F. Kennedy 575 Lyndon B. Johnson 1187 Richard Nixon 926 Gerald Ford 409 Jimmy Carter 566 Excludes over 200,000 pardoned for Vietnam draft evasion Ronald Reagan 406 George H. W. Bush 77 Bill Clinton 459 George W. Bush 200 Barack Obama 1927 Donald Trump 237 Joe Biden 9 Excludes 6,500 pardoned for simple possession of marijuana |
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Post by jdd2 on Jun 10, 2023 23:16:52 GMT -5
So he's already been pardoned once...?  |
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Post by Cornflake on Jun 11, 2023 6:49:47 GMT -5
I've seen justice. I've seen mercy. I prefer mercy.
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Post by millring on Jun 11, 2023 6:51:50 GMT -5
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Post by TKennedy on Jun 11, 2023 9:45:22 GMT -5
So a British tea connoisseur had travelled the world over trying to sample every variety of tea known. Just when he thought he had succeeded he was told of a rare tea made from Koala hide by an obscure order of Australian nuns, the Sisters of Mercy in a remote convent.
He immediately traveled to Australia and with great difficulty reached the convent. The Nuns were more than willing to oblige and made a pot.
After the first sip he gagged and spit it out exclaiming loudly “there’s fur in this tea!”
The mother superior gently replied - “The Koala tea of mercy is not strained”
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Post by aquaduct on Jun 11, 2023 10:21:59 GMT -5
So a British tea connoisseur had travelled the world over trying to sample every verity of tea known. Just when he thought he had succeeded he was told of a rare tea made from Koala hide by an obscure order of Australian nuns, the Sisters of Mercy in a remote convent. He immediately traveled to Australia and with great difficulty reached the convent. The Nuns were more than willing to oblige and made a pot. After the first sip he gagged and spit it out exclaiming loudly “there’s fur in this tea!” The mother superior gently replied - “The Koala tea of mercy is not strained” Boo! Hiss! |
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Post by james on Jun 13, 2023 15:46:58 GMT -5
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Post by jdd2 on Jun 13, 2023 16:22:48 GMT -5
I like presidents who don't get arrested.
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Post by millring on Jun 14, 2023 4:07:43 GMT -5
Such curious things our blindspots. The very folks demanding recusal will ridicule doubt in the judge of their choice.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 14, 2023 7:16:45 GMT -5
You can say that again. (Whatever it is that you said)
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Post by TKennedy on Jun 14, 2023 9:43:07 GMT -5
Does recusal require becoming a recluse? A little shack in the Everglades perhaps?
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Post by david on Jun 14, 2023 11:29:10 GMT -5
James, A very good article. I am impressed with your continuing referrals to good information. Thank you. |
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Post by james on Jun 14, 2023 11:40:16 GMT -5
De nada. As an "unlettered peasant", I appreciate any credible, informed help I can get!
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