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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jan 17, 2016 22:40:30 GMT -5
What a self absorbed egotistical ass.
Mike
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Post by Village Idiot on Jan 17, 2016 22:44:20 GMT -5
Wasn't Sean Penn in a movie about prison or something?
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Post by epaul on Jan 17, 2016 23:01:24 GMT -5
You're thinking of Dick Van Dyke.
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Post by Village Idiot on Jan 17, 2016 23:47:22 GMT -5
Didn't Dick show up in Mayberry once?
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Post by Doug on Jan 18, 2016 1:26:58 GMT -5
What a self absorbed egotistical ass. Mike And your point is? I have seen him do some serviceable acting, but his public persona leaves much to be desired. See I have insulted him politely
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Post by Bassman on Jan 18, 2016 4:00:55 GMT -5
I have always thought Sean Penn was an ASS, and not much of an actor also. So I could care less what he thinks about anything.
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Post by drlj on Jan 18, 2016 8:11:57 GMT -5
Didn't Dick show up in Mayberry once? That was Dick Van Patten.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 9:10:09 GMT -5
While I agree that the so called "War on drugs" has been an unmitigated disaster and has led to many unintended consequences (hey government's involved whaddya expect?), I think Penn is a moron if he believes El Chapo, some kid smoking a joint or some poor addict are equally to blame for thousands of murders. Besides, if he really led the police to the drug lord's door, I'd be very careful, if I were him. More unintended consequences could be coming his way.
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Post by fauxmaha on Jan 18, 2016 9:32:35 GMT -5
It's been my experience that the coercion meted out by drug cartels is largely elective in nature. Which is to say, I leave them alone and they leave me alone.
Would that I could say the same about government, which is a cartel in its own right.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jan 18, 2016 9:49:53 GMT -5
Would that I could say the same about government, which is a cartel in its own right. So move to Malhuer. Mike
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 10:10:03 GMT -5
It's been my experience that the coercion meted out by drug cartels is largely elective in nature. Which is to say, I leave them alone and they leave me alone. Would that I could say the same about government, which is a cartel in its own right. Both the left and the right have a great deal of trouble seeing the War on Drugs for what it is. The same people on the right who are steadfastly against big government meddling in things that they can only make worse still support it while those on the left who are steadfastly for big government intervention in everything don't see how it always seems to work this way with unintended consequences often being the rule rather than the exception.
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Post by fauxmaha on Jan 18, 2016 10:39:56 GMT -5
Would that I could say the same about government, which is a cartel in its own right. So move to Malhuer. Mike Is it a crime to rescue baby squirrels in Malhuer?
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Post by Doug on Jan 18, 2016 11:06:11 GMT -5
It's been my experience that the coercion meted out by drug cartels is largely elective in nature. Which is to say, I leave them alone and they leave me alone. Would that I could say the same about government, which is a cartel in its own right. Both the left and the right have a great deal of trouble seeing the War on Drugs for what it is. The same people on the right who are steadfastly against big government meddling in things that they can only make worse still support it while those on the left who are steadfastly for big government intervention in everything don't see how it always seems to work this way with unintended consequences often being the rule rather than the exception. The big supporters of the "War on Drugs" are the drug cartels.
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Post by brucemacneill on Jan 18, 2016 11:08:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 11:09:13 GMT -5
Both the left and the right have a great deal of trouble seeing the War on Drugs for what it is. The same people on the right who are steadfastly against big government meddling in things that they can only make worse still support it while those on the left who are steadfastly for big government intervention in everything don't see how it always seems to work this way with unintended consequences often being the rule rather than the exception. The big supporters of the "War on Drugs" are the drug cartels. Yes, of course, but there are beneficiaries on the other side of the coin, as well. As always, follow the money.
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Post by fauxmaha on Jan 18, 2016 11:11:21 GMT -5
Given that heroin remains as illegal as illegal can be, this seems more an indictment of the war on drugs than anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 11:34:54 GMT -5
Since it's inception, drug use including heroin and cocaine has only increased with billions being poured in and taken out. Two sides of the same equation. Prohibition is always such a great success!
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Post by RickW on Jan 18, 2016 11:48:34 GMT -5
Never was so much money wasted in such a useless fashion. Legalize it tax, take some of the money and treat addicts. Don't force them to live as prostitutes or by stealing to buy drugs.
It's pretty much possible for any high school kid in America or Canada with money in their pockets to buy drugs, off the street, unexamined, unregulated drugs. Not even a faint hope of an intelligent adult intervening. If the war on drugs was meant to get drugs away from our kids, it's done nothing. Any high school kid knows who he can talk to to get it.
As to Mr. Penn, he's an arrogant ass. He also spent a huge amount of his time and money in Haiti rebuilding homes and neighbourhoods for those whose lives were destroyed by the earthquake. He deserves massive props for what he did.
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Post by drlj on Jan 18, 2016 12:00:33 GMT -5
One can only hope. Only a socialist would recue a squirrel anyway. It is part of their socialist squirrel agenda.
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Post by brucemacneill on Jan 18, 2016 13:23:48 GMT -5
I have way too many heroin addicted young relatives to think legalization is a good idea. No ODs as far as I know but lots of other problems and lots of rehabs and lots of went right back to the drugs. They have no real future so I expect the ODs to start soon.
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