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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 13:59:59 GMT -5
Humancentric. Dinosaurs were once the apex of the animal kingdom. What is good for humans may or may not be good for the earth. So far we are a very short lived species. So? You haven't said anything that discredits the specialness or uniqueness of humans as a life form, the topic you just tried to address. Dinosaurs didn't build shit and you are the only one talking about planets. What makes building shit important that isn't humancentric?
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 12:43:16 GMT -5
But, Humans do have a special place in the world. We are at the apex of the animal kingdom and plant kingdom both. There is no reason to drag religion, morality, or smugness into it. It obviously just is. It is observable, by us, the only species that is able to make records of observations, catalog them, and evaluate them, that of all animals and plants, we are unique and special in, well, in all sorts of ways, like advanced speech, written language, the ability to make and use complex tools, build TV sets, microwaves, and rocket ships, and make unending moral arguments. We make pets of animals, step on bugs, and cultivate plants. Not bragging or taking credit for any of it, but our specialness and uniqueness among the animal and plant life on this planet is so obvious explanation really shouldn't be necessary and certainly doesn't require a god, religion, or Whigs. Humancentric. Dinosaurs were once the apex of the animal kingdom. What is good for humans may or may not be good for the earth. So far we are a very short lived species.
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 12:39:33 GMT -5
Opinion. Destructive for ? Mass extinctions give way to new species filling niches. Humancentric. What's good for man may or may not be good for the earth. All climate change is natural.
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 12:18:01 GMT -5
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 12:15:50 GMT -5
Much better, James. I didn't check all the paper links. But did check a few most based on models a few on numbers. Biggest argument against man made climate change is previous warming periods that are pre man or pre industrial man. Even if you could prove that there is man made climate change you wouldn't be able to prove that it's not natural. Man and what man does is part of nature. Periods where there was tropical weather as far north as Greenland are natural as are periods when there are glaciers as far south as TN.
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 11:54:14 GMT -5
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 11:49:55 GMT -5
Science is numbers and results of experiments. You keep posting he said she said arguments. Show me one thing with step by step scientific method. Climate change sure, man made climate change unlikely to any extent. Having been trained as a scientist and working in science labs he said she said arguments are just BS.
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 10:47:46 GMT -5
No science in either of those. And the "report" wasn't even reporting science.
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 8:22:30 GMT -5
Both little toes and appendix are survival traits that we no longer use. It's true that both might once again be survival traits. You may have to start feeding yourself from food direct from the ground or run barefoot to catch dinner or not be dinner. But for thousands of years they haven't been. Evolution is slow. No one designed except survival. But that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. Though less so than Marshall, you still implied direction -- as though the human race is "advanced" from some previous state. That's predicated on the notion that evolution has a direction. Evolution does have direction. Toward survival of the species. Traits that help that get reinforced and traits that don't die out. Creation of changed DNA traits is random, reinforcement or not is not random but based on increasing the survival rate or decreasing it or being neutral to survival. On a limited basis you can direct evolution, if you can direct survival of those DNA traits. Breeds of dogs, cows etc. Survival of dogs in the wild produces a mid sized wolf/coyote type. But if you want a "big" dog you kill all the small offspring and keep all the big offspring till you get nothing but big dogs. You have made big a survival trait.
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 8:05:20 GMT -5
I'z here
I don't think we have anything planned
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Post by Doug on Aug 5, 2017 8:02:24 GMT -5
Both little toes and appendix are survival traits that we no longer use. It's true that both might once again be survival traits. You may have to start feeding yourself from food direct from the ground or run barefoot to catch dinner or not be dinner. But for thousands of years they haven't been. Evolution is slow. No one designed except survival.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 21:12:52 GMT -5
Don't baby it. Wear heavy snake proof knee high boots. Edit: I go through a pair of Birks a year and the only problem I have comfort wise is gravel. Living in AZ there's a lot of fine gravel. And normal walking you pick up some and shake it out but some you put up with (circumstances) and I end up with a small stone bruse, and those take forever to heal.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 21:09:17 GMT -5
Ahhh. I always tried to listen to the radio show probably from age five or six on. Of course that was done by two white guys. I don't recall ever seeing the TV show but our family was late in acquiring a TV set. I recall watching them on the TV sets at the Gambles store in Aurora, NE while my dad chewed the fat with the owner and my mom was off shopping for groceries. My first TV to watch was in Reform AL. My father sold appliances for a man called C.D. Vick and you always said Mr. C.D. if you were a kid. The store took in a TV for trade on a washing machine. On Sat night my father took us down to the store and watched Gunsmoke on a TV with a 6-10 round screen in a box 2ft wide and 3ft tall. Wonder how many of us can remember the first family TV compared to those who've always had a TV in the house growing up.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 21:04:42 GMT -5
Lar, I just got word from the office. There is a little mission to Islamabad. If you can get away for four days, it's yours. All expenses are covered and you have your choice of one of the below as a traveling companion (for cover). The Office is open to whatever choice you make. They really don't care about silly little personal matters. Veronica- Shawn- Buffy- Ewe have to be kidding. epaul might have some tall boots you can borrow.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 20:48:51 GMT -5
Mental evolution won't progress any faster than physical evolution and it's been a long time since we outgrew the need for an appendix and while it's gotten smaller we still have one, and a long time since we outgrew the need for the little toe and most of us still have one. Speaking of all that, I've got this extra little toe hanging off my calf about halfway up to my knee. Should I do something about that? Yes what you should do is not make babies with women how have an extra toe.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 20:10:49 GMT -5
Hey if the Russians can pull out and call it a victory why can't we.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 17:49:36 GMT -5
He fixed the problem and it cost me $85. You mean he walked in, took out a wrench, tightened a loose fitting, handed you a bill and walked out. Here for 1.5 hr. Could not find the valve for the irrigation that was put in years ago. Dug up the line to the irrigation. Capped the bubblers. We've used 2 different plumbers since we've been here. One charged us $430 to replace the shutoff for a toilet, and this one who only charged us $180 to replace two lines to the 1/2 bath. And today guess which one we called. Getting ready to have the whole place replumbed. One quote $7000 one quote $2000 to have all modern plumbing. We have found the right plumber for Kingman.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 11:28:58 GMT -5
That's a fair point. So far, we've gone through two CoC's, and haven't gotten an answer yet. Don't expect one out of Trump either. Beg to differ. Bush and Obama both had strategic visions, which in the case of Obama led to the troop surge in 2009. They might have been good visions or bad, but they were declared U.S. policies. Trump's strategic vision, so far, is to fire the guy in charge of conducting the war on the ground. Both Bush and Obama had visions of getting more votes not of winning. Political BS. Unless you are willing to put the full power of the US (all weapons and a full draft putting a couple of million men on the ground) it's just political BS. Every soldier killed was murdered by Bush and Obama for political gain.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 10:57:30 GMT -5
Plumber coming this morning Good luck with that Doug. He fixed the problem and it cost me $85.
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Post by Doug on Aug 4, 2017 9:08:56 GMT -5
Mental evolution won't progress any faster than physical evolution and it's been a long time since we outgrew the need for an appendix and while it's gotten smaller we still have one, and a long time since we outgrew the need for the little toe and most of us still have one.
You don't need an appendix if you don't pick your food up off the ground and stuff it in your mouth. And you don't need a little toe if you wear shoes.
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