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Mar 28, 2015 7:31:11 GMT -5
Post by fauxmaha on Mar 28, 2015 7:31:11 GMT -5
I'm still trying to process "the decency or goodwill of my friend Rush." The guy who slut-shamed a law student for testifying in favor of having birth control covered by health insurance. Maybe Nordlinger is right in his assertion that neither Adams nor the rich people in the concert hall have ever "listened to Rush’s show or read an article by him," but I have, and he's a braying bully playing to an angry, resentful, credulous audience. He may be intermittently funny, but it's usually the kind of humor that results in an invitation to step out into the parking lot for some attitude correction. Can we agree that the overlap between "people of decency and goodwill" and "people who have said dumb thing" is non-zero? Now, consider the case of Bill Clinton. He spent months carefully, deliberately, calculatingly organizing a national political machine to viciously and publicly slander (is that the same thing as slut-shaming?) multiple women, victims at his own hand of rape, assault, etc. Now, suppose Adams had inserted "Bill Clinton" into his remarks instead of "Rush Limbaugh". Do you think the tony sophisticates in that New York Philharmonic audience would have taken the cultural cue to launch into their enthusiastic Two Minute Hate? Indeed, it is probably a safe bet that 80% of that audience would gladly vote to return Bill Clinton to the White House, even if only in the secondary role. Ok, now set all that aside. The real point, (which you somewhat surprisingly fell right into, just like the New York audience) is the abject absurdity of equivocating anything or anyone, be it Rush Limbaugh or Bill Clinton, with those who engage in the most extreme, systematic, authority-sanctioned anti-female practices in the world.
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Mar 28, 2015 8:11:58 GMT -5
Post by Fingerplucked on Mar 28, 2015 8:11:58 GMT -5
I don't like Rand Paul's hair.
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Mar 28, 2015 11:13:40 GMT -5
Post by Russell Letson on Mar 28, 2015 11:13:40 GMT -5
About Adams and Rush and Nordlinger and the presumptive tony reverse-bigots of the wealthy Left: First, as of last night, when I wrote that post, the only accounts of Adams' remarks I could find on line were from Nordlinger and a commenter on the New York Classical Review site who refers to Nordlinger's piece. Today there's a NY Times story with a slightly different wording than Nordlinger's, paraphrasing Adams as pointing to "the continuing physical and mental brutality against women not just in enclaves of the Middle East but also in America—for example, he said, on the airwaves that carry Rush Limbaugh." Second, I think we are witnessing the birth of a meme here, viz., the characterization of the audience reaction as a "Two Minute Hate" (which I see Jeff is already deploying). Nordlinger invoked Orwell but cannily admits that "the applause . . . did not last for two minutes, but . . . went on long enough." Rush picked up the idea and put it in the title of his on-line transcript. I also note the regular-fella, I-ain't-no-black-tie-classical-music-guy disclaimers in Limbaugh's presentation, the burden of which is that Rush is proud to be the object of "out-of-control, out-of-containment even possibility of being contained hatred" from the left in general and these classical-music types. (Usually it's the Right waving the bloody shirt of "class warfare" from the Left.) www.nationalreview.com/corner/416078/sick-and-twisted-culture-jay-nordlingerwww.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/03/27/two_minutes_hate_at_avery_fisher_hallAs for what might account for anti-Limbaugh sentiments among women who don't live on the the Right, there's this summary from the admittedly non-Right Media Matters: mediamatters.org/blog/2012/03/05/limbaugh-receives-criticism-over-his-so-called/184608I don't think I "fell into" anything. The attitudes that end with stoning belong to a continuum of attitudes and practices that include slut-shaming, and Rush has shown himself willing to play to the remnants of them that remain embedded in our culture. And don't think that because I find Rush to be (perhaps cynically) loutish that I approve of Clinton's zipper problems, let alone his political behavior while he was in office. He was one of the nicest, slickest Republicans of his time.
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Mar 28, 2015 16:23:33 GMT -5
Post by dradtke on Mar 28, 2015 16:23:33 GMT -5
I sure hope that's sarcasm. The only thing you and I have ever agreed on is the hot babes. I'd hate if you let me down on that.
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