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Post by billhammond on Jan 6, 2018 16:08:30 GMT -5
But still our old Rav4 and now a Honda Hylander were under $26K. The Hylander came with the most basic package and doesn't have a touch screen.
Marshall -- I think I figured out what Sue's car is -- I think you had the first letter right on both words, but just missed the rest. Does it look like this?
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Post by Doug on Jan 6, 2018 16:31:13 GMT -5
His price does seem very high. We bought a new Mitsubishi Outlander 5 years ago, the top end model, for 35k. And when I was a teenage, I would have laughed if someone suggested I buy new. I had a 67 Dodge Van, and a 67 bug. Your can’t buy that cheap here anymore, as cars get written off in accidents, so they just don’t live to where they are worth that little. Mitsubishi does not have a touch screen. Stereo controls are in the steering wheel. The one thing that does perturb me is the automatic windshield wipers. I have a full on mode, and full off, or this mode that replaces intermittent, that senses water hitting the windshield. When that goes, I suspect a small fortune to replace it, and no way around it if I want intermittent wipers. I do like my backup camera, (wasn’t anything I wanted, but it’s nice to have.) And I’m in love with heated seats. But I agree with the premise on the tech. Years ago, I had a Suzuki GS1100 bike, normal tach and speedo. My body bought a Honday 750 that had an LED readout for all the feedback controls. It was spiffy. I asked the sales guy how much it cost to replace it. $1500. This was 35 years ago. Basically, when it failed, you’d toss the bike, as it would cost more to fix it than the bike was worth. Should have kept the bug. A all original '67 is worth in the $30k range. Even mine that is only mostly original is in the $12k range.
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Post by amanajoe on Jan 6, 2018 18:05:11 GMT -5
Just had a 2018 loaner Subaru outback (my 2014 was getting an entirely new short block under warranty due to high oil consumption, but that's another story). The first time I was going around a curve and the lane departure system steered the car back into the lane against my command, I couldn't wait to get my older Subaru back. I was avoiding an animal carcass on the road and the idiot thing tried to steer me back into it. Glad to have my old analog controlled vehicle back. Joe -- I bet you missed this long but fascinating thread by Kris. There's also a capsule follow-up thread. acoustictalk.proboards.com/thread/46231/update-wisconsin-dells-blown-engineacoustictalk.proboards.com/thread/46416/great-resolution-subaru-sagaThis was the inspiration for me finding the technical service bulletin that had the oil consumption test. The fact that my car had 88,000 miles on it had no bearing on it. As far as Subaru was concerned, they made a mistake and made it right. No questions asked. I now have an entirely new short block along with all the gaskets, etc (it is an extensive list of parts that they replaced).
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Post by billhammond on Jan 6, 2018 18:19:20 GMT -5
This was the inspiration for me finding the technical service bulletin that had the oil consumption test. The fact that my car had 88,000 miles on it had no bearing on it. As far as Subaru was concerned, they made a mistake and made it right. No questions asked. I now have an entirely new short block along with all the gaskets, etc (it is an extensive list of parts that they replaced). Ah, great, glad it all worked out for you.
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Post by theevan on Jan 6, 2018 18:51:04 GMT -5
I have no argument with the various gripes, but cars are so much better than those lamented oldies we loved.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 6, 2018 19:01:34 GMT -5
But still our old Rav4 and now a Honda Hylander were under $26K. The Hylander came with the most basic package and doesn't have a touch screen.
Marshall -- I think I figured out what Sue's car is -- I think you had the first letter right on both words, but just missed the rest. Does it look like this? It must be a heavy burden being so obsessive compulsive about spelling. I'll prey for you.
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Post by billhammond on Jan 6, 2018 19:39:52 GMT -5
I am truly sorry, Marshall -- I thought you would be OK with some good-natured ribbing. I'll not bug you again.
(Lots of people misspell CR-V as Hylander <ducks>.)
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Post by Doug on Jan 6, 2018 19:55:50 GMT -5
I am truly sorry, Marshall -- I thought you would be OK with some good-natured ribbing. I'll not bug you again. (Lots of people misspell CR-V as Hylander <ducks>.) You would think that an ed-tor would know Highlanders was spelled Connor MacLeod, there can be only one.
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Post by Village Idiot on Jan 6, 2018 20:56:09 GMT -5
I've had a 63, 67, and a 73. The 73 being a microbus. See if you still had them you could sell them for enough money to retire. No, not really. When my brother was around he made a lot of money restoring foreign cars. He was actually kind of well-known in that microcosm world of saving the lives of Alpha Romeos, Audis, Fiats, Jaguars, etc. But his big money maker was VWs, but he got out of that somewhere around 2010. He said the people who used to drive them weren't interested in them anymore, and the only people who wanted one were the people who couldn't afford them. That being young kids who thought it'd be cool to have a "hippie car".
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Post by Doug on Jan 6, 2018 23:10:18 GMT -5
My '67 at close to original the insurances says $10k and I think I could get 12 I turned down 10 last year. All original '67 should go in the $30k range. And I saw a 23 window bus go for $92k. Stupid ain't it for a car that sold for less than $2k new.
The key for the big bucks is "original"
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Post by Marshall on Jan 7, 2018 6:59:47 GMT -5
I am truly sorry, Marshall -- I thought you would be OK with some good-natured ribbing. I'll not bug you again. (Lots of people misspell CR-V as Hylander <ducks>.) Just teasing you back, my man. You're cool.
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Post by jdd2 on Jan 7, 2018 8:16:48 GMT -5
I look at cars now and then. One thing I like about mine now is no console that crowds that arm, and forces you to sit your arm on top of it. Just a low one, out of the way, with the parking brake, so complete freedom.
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Post by patrick on Jan 7, 2018 10:29:50 GMT -5
We have dubbed her "Garmalita". I call my GPS "the bitch in the box." So, one time, driving the Highlander, I put the same destination into the Garmin, the onboard GPS, my wife's iPhone and my wife. I'm driving along getting instructions from the bitch in the box, the bitch in the dash, the bitch in the phone and the bitch in the seat. And they're all giving me different directions.
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Post by billhammond on Jan 7, 2018 10:37:26 GMT -5
We have dubbed her "Garmalita". I call my GPS "the bitch in the box." So, one time, driving the Highlander, I put the same destination into the Garmin, the onboard GPS, my wife's iPhone and my wife. I'm driving along getting instructions from the bitch in the box, the bitch in the dash, the bitch in the phone and the bitch lady in the seat. And they're all giving me different directions.
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Post by coachdoc on Jan 7, 2018 11:26:15 GMT -5
Oh, and don’t get me started on $150 keys. WTF is that?
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Post by millring on Jan 7, 2018 11:31:36 GMT -5
We have dubbed her "Garmalita". I call my GPS "the bitch in the box." So, one time, driving the Highlander, I put the same destination into the Garmin, the onboard GPS, my wife's iPhone and my wife. I'm driving along getting instructions from the bitch in the box, the bitch in the dash, the bitch in the phone and the bitch in the seat. And they're all giving me different directions. I have copied this to my hard drive. When we meet you are buying the beer or your wife gets sent a copy.
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Post by millring on Jan 7, 2018 11:32:48 GMT -5
Garmalita has lately taken to giving me instructions to turn just after the intersection. That's not terribly helpful.
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Post by TKennedy on Jan 7, 2018 11:45:20 GMT -5
What fun is never getting lost, listening to your favorite music while being in constant contact with everyone in your social media world, having your environment perfectly controlled, always knowing what’s behind you, being isolated in a comfortable protective cocoon of belts and airbags, kids totally content head phone festooned zombies watching their devices in the back seat, having only minimal maintenance requirements to worry about and all while barreling down the road at hundreds of feet per second.
After remembering all day summer car trips with all the windows down or freezing in the winter bouncing around in the back seat surrounded by sharp pointy objects, it does not seem to bad but it’s no longer an adventure.
Where are the epic family travel stories of the future going to come from?
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Post by coachdoc on Jan 7, 2018 12:42:58 GMT -5
What fun is never getting lost, listening to your favorite music while being in constant contact with everyone in your social media world, having your environment perfectly controlled, always knowing what’s behind you, being isolated in a comfortable protective cocoon of belts and airbags, kids totally content head phone festooned zombies watching their devices in the back seat, having only minimal maintenance requirements to worry about and all while barreling down the road at hundreds of feet per second. After remembering all day summer car trips with all the windows down or freezing in the winter bouncing around in the back seat surrounded by sharp pointy objects, it does not seem to bad but it’s no longer an adventure. Where are the epic family travel stories of the future going to come from? National Lampoon.
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Post by patrick on Jan 11, 2018 10:24:13 GMT -5
I call my GPS "the bitch in the box." So, one time, driving the Highlander, I put the same destination into the Garmin, the onboard GPS, my wife's iPhone and my wife. I'm driving along getting instructions from the bitch in the box, the bitch in the dash, the bitch in the phone and the bitch in the seat. And they're all giving me different directions. I have copied this to my hard drive. When we meet you are buying the beer or your wife gets sent a copy. Oh, I told her at the time. She thought it was funny.
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