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Post by Dub on Oct 11, 2023 13:50:11 GMT -5
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Post by Russell Letson on Oct 11, 2023 14:44:00 GMT -5
The pickup design reminds me of early Baggs saddle transducers, which had individual crystals molded into the saddle. I also see that they offer a MIDI add-on board. I wonder whether it's Roland-specific or can feed any MIDI processing system. Steve Cloutier built a MIDI guitar years ago with a hex pickup that he could use with all manner of gear. You can hear it on some of his YouTube videos.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 11, 2023 16:06:10 GMT -5
Neva hoid of vit.
Looks interesting. A UST with 2 cables comping out of it. That's a little confusing. Nice looking preamp circuit board. I suspect they are saying the preamp will tame the UST sound and provide the ability to EQ or shape the sound.
Kinda pricy.
The proof is in the pudding. I'd have to hear it live through a sound system to comment further. Maybe it's great. Maybe it's hype.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 11, 2023 16:10:27 GMT -5
They include a nice drill bit. There's always that.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 11, 2023 16:14:02 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on Oct 11, 2023 16:17:43 GMT -5
Aaron does great reviews.
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Post by Dub on Oct 11, 2023 16:32:26 GMT -5
I thought this was interesting. First is the Go Acoustic system and second is the native Taylor system.
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Post by Dub on Oct 11, 2023 16:44:30 GMT -5
Aaron does great reviews. Both Aaron’s and the first video above are using the original Go pickup where the saddle is replaced by separate pickups/saddles for each string. The second one (J45) and the one I posted use the new saddle system. Those videos are only a few hours old at this writing. I think the new saddle-based system has replaced the earlier design.
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Post by Marty on Oct 11, 2023 17:38:08 GMT -5
Yup! Reminds me of the old Baggs LB pickup. Those used 6 piezos and had to be the right model for the string spacing. They were limited in how much you could alter the saddle for radius and height so the saddle slot had to be carefully routed to keep the pickup alterations within the limits and still achieve the proper action.
One of the big install limits was cutting the saddle down too much because past a certain point string balance would be altered beyond adjusting. I learned right away to cut the saddle slot just a bit deeper than measurements told me to. It was better to cut less off the pickup and shim it up a bit to get the action right. This also allowed for humidity changes.
While a bit tricky to install the LB pickup was rather good if done correctly. I still have one in the package but don't remember the spacing.
At that time there was also the Highlander pickup. While precise measurements were needed to do a proper install it worked just as well as the Baggs LB. I did a Highlander install last week for a client that found a used one. I've done so many of them that they are almost second nature for me. This one turned out perfect. And while they were still in business Highlander quoted me on their website "This system is built like a brick outhouse, very roadworthy" and they were.
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Post by Dub on Oct 11, 2023 17:53:22 GMT -5
Go Acoustic says they will radius the saddle to the buyer's needs and they ask for that information on the purchase link.
They also say this is intended for installation by the owner/player. They even provide a gadget to hold the preamp outside of the body of the guitar so the strings can be individually voiced before putting it inside. The preamp is made to attach to the inside part of the end block jack.
The default control is two thumbwheels mounted to be accessible at the edge of the soundhole. They also have a set of electronic sliders for controlling the output but that requires cutting slots in the side of the guitar and would require a skilled luthier.
If your guitar's neck was being replaced/reset anyway, the saddle height could be accounted for during that process without modifying the bridge slot.
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Post by John B on Oct 11, 2023 18:46:31 GMT -5
The pickup design reminds me of early Baggs saddle transducers, which had individual crystals molded into the saddle. I also see that they offer a MIDI add-on board. I wonder whether it's Roland-specific or can feed any MIDI processing system. Steve Cloutier built a MIDI guitar years ago with a hex pickup that he could use with all manner of gear. You can hear it on some of his YouTube videos. It uses the Roland 13-pin system.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 12, 2023 8:39:36 GMT -5
In Aaron Short's review video above he shows that with heavy strumming the thing quacks out like a normal UST piezo. That would not work for me.
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Post by Dub on Oct 12, 2023 10:15:02 GMT -5
In Aaron Short's review video above he shows that with heavy strumming the thing quacks out like a normal UST piezo. That would not work for me. No, it wouldn’t. But of course the pickup he’s demonstrating is no longer made.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Oct 12, 2023 12:13:16 GMT -5
My Larrivée has a Baggs LB6 pickup. It sounds nice in the hands of an actual guitar player.
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Post by Marty on Oct 12, 2023 12:50:36 GMT -5
I looked in the acoustic pickup drawer and the Baggs is a LB-12 with a 2 3/8" spacing. 3 used LB-6 pickups but I didn't take time to look up the spacing code. I also have a Highlander internal preamp.
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Post by Marty on Oct 12, 2023 12:51:21 GMT -5
My Larrivée has a Baggs LB6 pickup. It sounds nice in the hands of an actual guitar player. Is there a onboard preamp?
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Oct 12, 2023 14:18:29 GMT -5
My Larrivée has a Baggs LB6 pickup. It sounds nice in the hands of an actual guitar player. Is there a onboard preamp? Yes, a box Velcroed to the neck block. I currently do not have a battery in it as I have no occasion to plug in. Bill Hammond played it through my acoustic amp when he and John Bushouse visited me. Bill liked it.
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Post by Marty on Oct 13, 2023 8:47:57 GMT -5
Is there a onboard preamp? Yes, a box Velcroed to the neck block. I currently do not have a battery in it as I have no occasion to plug in. Bill Hammond played it through my acoustic amp when he and John Bushouse visited me. Bill liked it. While I liked the LB-6 pickups I hated that series of preamps. They are heavy and if they had the Vol/Tone controls you had to mount them in a poor position with a poor quality Velcro type mounting pads. They will usually come loose and end up rolling around inside the guitar so I always keep real Velcro 2" wide Industrial strength in stock, that stuff stays put.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Oct 13, 2023 10:27:04 GMT -5
Yes, a box Velcroed to the neck block. I currently do not have a battery in it as I have no occasion to plug in. Bill Hammond played it through my acoustic amp when he and John Bushouse visited me. Bill liked it. While I liked the LB-6 pickups I hated that series of preamps. They are heavy and if they had the Vol/Tone controls you had to mount them in a poor position with a poor quality Velcro type mounting pads. They will usually come loose and end up rolling around inside the guitar so I always keep real Velcro 2" wide Industrial strength in stock, that stuff stays put. I've replaced the Velcro with better Velcro that holds well.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 13, 2023 12:01:09 GMT -5
In Aaron Short's review video above he shows that with heavy strumming the thing quacks out like a normal UST piezo. That would not work for me. No, it wouldn’t. But of course the pickup he’s demonstrating is no longer made. So, did you get one? Could be nice.
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